New abortion scare tactics *sensitive warning, photo included*

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This is doing the rounds on fb at the moment.

Seriously

what i meant was that if you threaten to carry out suicide, or let other people know, its not considered acceptable and your let on your merry way to get on with it. There would be some intervention id imagine.

This is a little off topic, but did anyone know that if you make a suicide pact with someone and only one person survives, the police will investigate that person for inciting another person to commit suicide?

It's so cruel.

This model popped up on my feed a while back and I was furious. By sharing bullshit propaganda like that, people are passing around misinformation, judging those that have been in a situation that others can't imagine, and just generally making life harder for people - why would you want to do that?

The whole "legitimate abortion" is as bad as "legitimate rape" - if it's not your uterus, you don't get to make the decision.

Harrassed - that's bullshit re suicide.

depends i suppose if the person who survived was some cult leader who brainwashed clearly vulnerable people or if it was some really old couple who wished to die together. But i guess there has to be some discouragement of suicide.

what is bullshit? Is it an acceptable issue to commit suicide?

Indeed, kitty. Nothing like that at all.

I woke up briefly during the bit where you are sedated. I'm very tolerant of sedatives. I have never told anyone about this. It was too gruesome to post about, but I had nightmares for months.

I know of a situation where two teenagers took overdoses with only one survivor. She was investigated by the police afterwards.

This is all very heavy for a Friday night!

Owl and Kitty and others

Were any charges brought? Id have like to think not, that it wasnt in public interest maybe. Do you think the police were investigating as a misguided deterrent to other people? Not that i think that would work either. Or it could not be seen that the police were turning a blind eye to it.

She was interviewed by the police with a view to prosecution. I don't know the story after that.

She has never recovered enough to be tried, I know that.

Sorry, off subject. But related in terms of choice to end a life and the burden of responsibility.

"citing possible (?) future abuse of a child to justify abortions"

I hope you are not referring to my post, harrass. There are such a multitude of reasons why people abort. I have been spared such a horrible decision, but one time I thought I might be pregnant and I was unemployed with no fixed abode, another time I had a scare, I had been overindulging in alcohol. If a woman knows that her child is going to be severely disabled, she really has to think if she has the means to look after that child into adulthood or beyond. Most women abort because they care deeply.

I don't understand why a woman's life is less important because she is grown.

I am pro choice entirely.

I only mention late term because it is so often used as a method of guilt tripping.

Also, there is a wait. I had to wait nearly six weeks for an appointment once I realised my situation was untenable. I went from seventeen weeks to twenty three weeks and four days. That isn't ever taken into account either.

And my situation is so, so rare. It almost never happens that it would be so late.

no it was to the other poster who said that her dad had had sadly a horrific upbringing (not disabled but abuse) and that it would have been kinder had he been aborted before birth. I dont agree that someone should get to make that decision for you. /arguably its a moot point because up until the cut off date any reason that affects the mother's wellbeing is cited as reasonable for abortion.

Atenco it's my posts harrassed is referring to. Stand by them.

Emma Goldman used to campaign for contraception in the USA, when contraception was illegal, partly because she had been an unwanted child herself.

Is every baby born the same size and length and weight and colour?

No

it varies, just as pics will vary depending on when the baby stopped growing

Earlier I was pointing out genuine miscarriages to show that a 12 week old baby isn't that dissimilar to a 12 week abortion. They are still babies with features although some may be more formed than others

It states on the website that that's what a 12 week old fetus look like. Not every 12 week old fetus will be correct for dates and be the same size

Those pictures on lost innocents aren't fake they are people children. Some aren't fully formed and it states that

Perhaps some abortion pics get used incorrectly, who knows. they don't have names attached to them to go and contact anyone and ask.

Smokers don't want to see pictures off lung cancer either. People would rather pretend that's not real than accept that it is or similar to what real babies look like.

Some people do get raped and keep their baby I was just expressing my view that I would find that a horrific situation and I can understand why a rape victim or someone with medical reasons would abort.

That's just my view people are welcome to disagree

I don't really believe that people would choose to have a 4d scan before an abortion which isn't for medical reasons unless they are not capable of human emotions like guilt. You can see every expression and feature so clearly on a 4d scan you would never be able to get the babys face out of your mind.

Lots of insults and name calling and swearing and denying what a 12 week old baby really looks like

Are or are they not babies with arms and legs and tiny fingers and toes?

I also wouldn't have an abortion for medical reasons I would deliver naturally when the time came, but I can understand why people in that situation do

I didn't start this thread, I just don't see the point in denying the truth about abortion

Is denying it going to make anyone not have an abortion? Probably not

Is showing smokers pics of tumours going to make them stop smoking.
Probably not

Seriously Uare just stop. You are just embarrassing yourself.

Ure a 12 week pregnancy isn't a 'baby' in legal terms. A foetus doesn't have the same legal rights as a baby who is born alive does. A foetus is not legally a person.

I don't understand your analogy between women who don't want to continue a particular pregnancy and people who smoke. And I suspect that's because it makes no sense.

Uare just because a website says something doesn't means it's bloody true.
You keep referring to these websites, both with an agenger, as though they are factual.

Can you not read mutiple people telling you there experiences?

A poster above told you she had a 4d scan and you have the fucking gall to just dismiss her?!

Fucking unreal.
Your chatting absolute bollocks, embarrassing yourself by using an anti choice as proof ffs.

Fucking idiot

UareWhatUeat
I don't think you've read a single post apart from your own. I've never seen such incredible ignorance on MN before. Myself and many other people have shared their own first hand experiences but of course you and your pro-life rubbish is much more knowledgeable than someone who has actually lived through the situation.