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To want p&c spaces to be renamed "easy access" spaces?

401 replies

UndramaticPause · 23/01/2016 19:56

This has been triggered by other threads but also by life events as a person with disabilities and reduced mobility who doesn't fit blue badge criteria.

We all know and love the p&c warriors and I have had the misfortune to be accosted by them in carparks and have had photos of my car plastered on Facebook parking pages as I will use these spaces if they are close to the shops to alleviate fatigue and pain.

Aibu to think there must be a large amount of people like me or with temporary issues like a broken leg or recovering from surgery who could benefit from the rebrand?

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Lurkedforever1 · 24/01/2016 11:52

star I wouldn't bother with p&c for my own/ just dd because it's quicker to walk from further away than mess about near busy store entrances. But if I have someone with me that really needs the use of a wide space near the door, and either has a bb and all the spaces are full, or doesn't have a bb at all, damned right I'd park there, without giving a toss how many death stares you gave me, or whatever entitled comments you made.

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Gileswithachainsaw · 24/01/2016 12:02

Oh yes the vans.

I definately think there should he bigger spaces fir the vans etc.

I know someone who keeps teh car seats in their van so they cab get away with using the space.

and yes I have had words but to no avail.

Starbores · 24/01/2016 16:33

lurked I already said in previous comments entitled tossers who park in the space without children are so selfish they wouldn't care is anyone gives them a look or passes comment.

Starbores · 24/01/2016 16:35

Also it's fair enough for people who have blue badges to use any space they want if there's no disabled bays available. You don't get to judge who is disabled/ in enough pain to use the p&c space.

My local asda fines people if they don't have a child under the age of 8 with them. I would like to see this rolled out.

Gileswithachainsaw · 24/01/2016 16:44

My local asda fines people if they don't have a child under the age of 8 with them. I would like to see this rolled out

but then your left with a massive problem. of those who need extra space due to having a passemger who needs suloort getting in and out the car and walking but don't qualify fir a badge nor have children

Sirzy · 24/01/2016 16:46

Ds is unlikely to ever qualify for a blue badge, but even when he turns 8 he is still going to have mobility problems. So I will carry on parking in a p and c space if one is free and I think that's the best available space for him.

Believe me carrying around a baby is much easier than carrying around a 6 year old!

Starbores · 24/01/2016 16:54

giles that's not the problem of parents who the spaces were designed for. They should take it up with the supermarket.

Starbores · 24/01/2016 16:59

sirzy that's your choice but it's not what the spaces are designed for.

And believe me carrying two babies is harder than carrying a 6 year old.

Most people have reasons they could do with the extra space but they are designed for children in car seats. I agree that all spaces should be bigger but until that's the case they should be used by those they were intended for.

fanjoforthemammaries7850 · 24/01/2016 17:33

Carrying 2 babies is not harder than carrying a 6 year old with mobility issues.

Can't believe you are even going there.

Sirzy · 24/01/2016 17:56

Having carried two babies before I can tell you that the 6 year old is certainly harder. Especially if said 6 year old is mid meltdown at the time.

So yes I will carry on using the spaces which work for us. And will need to long after your two babies are hopefully perfectly mobile without need for extra space.

WaitrosePigeon · 24/01/2016 17:58

It's not a competition Fanjo.

WaitrosePigeon · 24/01/2016 17:59
rosewithoutthorns · 24/01/2016 18:02

Disabled I agree with, mother and baby I don't.

Starbores · 24/01/2016 18:09

Well I disagree I've carried a large 6 year old and found it easier than carrying 2 wriggly babies.

Fanjo if you read the previous posts you'll see that sirzy was the one to compare so do get your facts straight before piping up.

It clearly states that they are for children in car seats not for any body else regardless of what issues you may be dealing with.

Take it up with the supermarket.

SauvignonBlanche · 24/01/2016 18:14

And believe me carrying two babies is harder than carrying a 6 year old.

Is this for real? Hmm

fanjoforthemammaries7850 · 24/01/2016 18:16

Well if waitrose was still reading the thread i would tell her to read more carefully because it wasn't me who started it being a competition.

fanjoforthemammaries7850 · 24/01/2016 18:16

Plus I don't waste vitriol on name changing cowards

UndramaticPause · 24/01/2016 18:17

I'm tempted to go to asda tomorrow and Park in a p&c space and let them fine me to see how far it needs to be taken...

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Starbores · 24/01/2016 18:17

No need for the confused face yes it is for real. Sirzy decided to turn into a competition and posted that carrying one baby is eaaier than a 6 six year old and now I'm getting shit for pointing out that carrying 2 babies is harder than a 6 year old. So pull all the faces you want I really couldn't give a shit.

fanjoforthemammaries7850 · 24/01/2016 18:18
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SauvignonBlanche · 24/01/2016 18:18

'Wriggly babies' tend to grow up and become walking toddlers. Six year olds with either mobility and or sensory issues tend to grow up into larger seven year olds with motors and or sensory issues.

fanjoforthemammaries7850 · 24/01/2016 18:19

No you're getting shit for bleating that carrying 2 babies is harder than carrying a 6 year old with a disability.

UndramaticPause · 24/01/2016 18:20

Even I find it easier to carry 2 babies!! 6 year olds, especially ones that are a dead weight, are hugely different because, well, they tend to be huge.

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Lockheart · 24/01/2016 18:20

If you've ever been to the USA you'll know how much bigger their car parking spaces are. I know, more land, bigger cars etc, BUT at my local supermarket the spaces are so tiny I can only just fit my Fiesta into one - we don't take my mum's Focus as it's too big. If you've got a van / saloon / landrover then you're screwed.

Supermarkets are so focussed on getting as many spaces as possible into as small as space as possible that it's becoming ridiculous, especially as cars have become larger over the years.

If it were me I would sacrifice a few car parking spaces and make life more comfortable for everyone. If the spaces were big enough then there'd be no need for wider P&C spaces, but of course you will always need dedicated disabled spaces near the entrance. My dad is one of those not yet disabled enough to need a Blue Badge, but to get him in and out of the car we have to have the door fully open, and ideally someone there helping him. We have to let him out of the car before we park as parking spaces are too tight.

Supermarkets seem reluctant to make spaces bigger though. And yet I rarely see carparks full to bursting, except perhaps at Christmas. But for the sake of a fraction of spaces being lost I think it would be well worth it IMO.

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