To want p&c spaces to be renamed "easy access" spaces?

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This has been triggered by other threads but also by life events as a person with disabilities and reduced mobility who doesn't fit blue badge criteria.

We all know and love the p&c warriors and I have had the misfortune to be accosted by them in carparks and have had photos of my car plastered on Facebook parking pages as I will use these spaces if they are close to the shops to alleviate fatigue and pain.

Aibu to think there must be a large amount of people like me or with temporary issues like a broken leg or recovering from surgery who could benefit from the rebrand?

I have two DS (now too old to qualify for a p&c space) and we have a blue badge and motobility car. If there isn't a disabled space available we just have to park elsewhere. It's life and we just have to deal with it sometimes.

Starbores don't be so ridiculous.

I think P&C spaces should be wider than normal to allow parents space to get kids in and out of cars and avoid kids banging the car door in to other people's cars especially if windy.
P&C spaces don't need to be near the shop entrance though as this isn't a mobility issue. They should have them further away from the entrance then other people wouldn't want to nick them. If people don't have enough mobility to walk the extra few metres tothe shop then they probably do fit blue badge criteria although considering the size of supermarkets with P&C spaces if you get a blue badge you probably need a wheelchair to get round the shop anyway in which case the extra few metres is irrelevant and you just need more space and to be near a pavement not stuck in the middle of the car park.

Yes Sauvignon but I'm not talking about walking toddlers am I.

Undramatic good for you. I myself find it harder carrying 2 babies.

Other people have listed other issues above that they feel are valid reasons to park in the parent and child spaces. Nobody seems to want to take it up with the supermarket though.

Many people on this thread feel they are entitled to use the space for one reason or another yet I'm being called entitled for using a space for the purpose it's designed for...only on mumsnet.

Wonder how many posts until I'm accused of discrimination.

I parked in a normal space yest (no p&c ones at all let alone available). Car parked next to me with woman trying to get out but car park very small and compact. Couldnt get baby in seat back in car his side despite my car door being right against hers. Luckily the space on my side was empty so put him through the other side. It was a bit crap but we all survived. All spaces should just be bigger full stop

2rebecca If only the world was so simple. Disabled spaces aren't just about where they are. The width of the bay is very important to most people who use them.

If you are carrying a 6 year old how does the difficulty suddenly resolve when you enter the shop? They're too big to fit in baby seats so if they're not in a wheelchair I don't see why the issue is the extra few yards from car park to shop, surely it's several hundred yards in the shop that's the problem. Why not get home delivery or wait until your partner gets home or if age 6 go whilst they are at school?

haddock wow brilliant input into this discussion.

2rebecca I also think p&c spaces should be further away. Maybe near a covered trolley bay and a safe pathway to the entrance.

I agree the width is important but people are talking about carrying difficulties not width issues.

Starbores have you ever carried a disabled 6 year old having a meltdown?

Oh yes, I see that you did say you thought they should be wider. Looks like the thread is being sidetracked. I think if everybody were less selfish and judgemental parking spaces wouldn't be an issue. Sadly, that isn't the case and I think attitudes are hardening.

There are sn shopping trollies that 6 year olds can go into. Those with babies also have the option of home deliveries or other people going for them.

no haddock I haven't and if there were designated spaces for this I wouldn't park in it or feel the need to get into a competition of who's need is greater.

Why not get home delivery or wait until your partner gets home or if age 6 go whilst they are at school?

Why doesn't Starbores get home delivery or wait until her partner gets home if she can't cope without a P&C space? And what if Sirzy doesn't have a partner and works whilst her DS is at school?

This is exactly why I bloody hate P&C spaces. They give some parents an entitled attitude and a sense of helplessness. They can never look just outside the box and understand why someone who might not fit the criteria needs them as much or more than them.

The argument about parking spaces does indeed seem to bring out the worst in people. I don't get it.

I'm quite happy to park in p and c spaces with my disabled 9 year old because I know our need is greater.

Fairy I don't need to justify my shopping habits to you. Obviously I have an entitled attitude as when there's one available I park in the spaces designed for people in my situation.

So what if as somebody posted above there's an adult with an injured leg or dementia. Are they more or less in need than sirzy and who are you to judge people's need?

I took a broken-legged friend out once and we parked in a P&C space so that she could open the door wide enough to get her plastered leg out of the car. We were met with glares from the Mummy parked next to us. Her face soon changed when my friend's leg appeared. We gave a friendly wave and hobbled off.

Starbores no one minds you parking in a p and c space but they object to you telling others who should park there.

Maybe people who don't really need them, have kids who can get in and out the seats themselves and can walk just fine to the store and the person driving is equally able too, should just not use them. in the hope that one will be free for someone who does require it.

and everyone else just not park like a pick in the rest of the spaces.

Good for you haddock for the ability to know everyone else at the supermarkets situation and knowing your need is greater.

Let's hope you don't get fined hey.

star I don't decide who has a disability/ health issue that entitles me to use a p&c space. I tend to judge that based on what the person says about their needs. Cos you know, me driving someone with mobility problems doesn't mean I also have to think for them. The loss of mobility doesn't preclude the ability to make decisions about their own physical limits. Call me a tosser all you like, I'll start worrying about my conduct when you approve of it.

In disbelief over the idea anybody with an older child with sn or mobility problems themselves should go alone/ shop from home on the off chance some precious parent be inconvenienced. Because obviously people whose child has an sn, or people with problems themselves just can't begin to understand the daily hardships of being a mum. Ffs.

For gods sake would you really give the arse to someone struggling to get a hefty 6 year old out of car, because you judged them not worthy, due to their child being too old, of a parking space put there as a courtesy by the supermarket?!

I won't get fined.

I'm always surprised by how upset people get about P&C spaces, they're simply there to make life easier. So those that need to (including those with mobility problems etc) should use them.
Those who don't need them but get upset about their existence or use them to make a point are a bit weird.
And those that are perfectly able bodied and capable of parking anywhere in the car park but use P&C spaces instead are just thoughtless or lazy.