To want p&c spaces to be renamed "easy access" spaces?

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This has been triggered by other threads but also by life events as a person with disabilities and reduced mobility who doesn't fit blue badge criteria.

We all know and love the p&c warriors and I have had the misfortune to be accosted by them in carparks and have had photos of my car plastered on Facebook parking pages as I will use these spaces if they are close to the shops to alleviate fatigue and pain.

Aibu to think there must be a large amount of people like me or with temporary issues like a broken leg or recovering from surgery who could benefit from the rebrand?

dramatic yes, travellers with a disability can get discounted tickets. They don't get upgraded to travellers clubs privileges unless they trigger the prerequisite number of frequent first class travel. So the business rewards their high spend, frequent customers.
lurked you are welcome.

It is better for me that they are close to the store because ds needs a sn trolley and they are kept in the store but what is most important is that I have the space to get him out of the car.

undramatic I don't think anyone on here has said that they would take issue? I see many people using them without children.

No people on this thread may not but people take massive issue irl

No one's said don't use them.

just that people like you are made to feel more entitled and important when really the spaces in question should he available fir people who need them.and mot jut parents. .the majority which manage at the likes of the zoo or the next sale or everywhere else you go with the family who suddenly can't use a normal.space at a supermarket.

use them.all you wish but re branding them as east access covers more of teh peolel who would benefit more. rather than judt parents

dramatic, knock yourself out. Most parent spaces aren't patrolled in any way. You could also queue with a trolley in the basket aisle and you'd probably be served with no issue other than some funny looks. It's hardly life and death.

But then I think.the majority of problems with needing these spaces at all would he solved by having larger spaces in general and people not being dick with how they park.

Having read back at your posts undramatic its clear that your original angle of 'easy access' for all who need it. Is in actual fact an issue with P&C spaces and whether people actually need them more than you.

Well, congratulations for roping us all into another crappy P&C rant thread.

Yes YABU. If you want to campaign for easy access spaces then do it but don't use the P&C spaces because there isn't. They're not meant for you and while it's not illegal like a disabled space it's bad manners to park in it.
I'm sick of looking at dickheads pulling in in their fancy cars and no kids in them so I've started saying it to them. I do it in a jokey way not to be confrontational but hopefully they'll rethink it next time.

Actually most places that target family spend such as shopping outlets, zoo, cinema offer parking for families. Liverpool one retail space and leicester fosse park both have parent spaces at the front of the car park.

I bet if we composed bar charts on each supermarkets % and proximity to the entrance of p&c spaces, and the number of products that fit into the freshly squeezed organic fox milk category, they'd correlate beautifully.

My only issue with them is I want them to be available for all who need an easy access space to be able to use them without people getting aggressive with them.

It is not bad manners to use them if your need is as great or greater.

lurked

If you have a clubcard or nectar card you will also find differing demographics being offered different deals. Again, it's bigger all about need and everything to do with customer retention.
M&s have a differing demographic of older customers and more single households and they tailor their store space and facilities accordingly. Asda have a pizza counter aimed at families, m&s have oodles of meal for one readymeals.

If you can walk around a supermarket though surely the extra bit to the car won't make that much difference?

I have twins and I often have to pull back to have the space to buckle them both in, I'm sure that relative to anyone with siblings in car seats not just twins.

I don't agree with parent and child spaces and at my supermarket they're at the back end of the car park anyway.

silly if you said it to me you'd get a nice lesson on hidden disabilities in return

sleb if I could loan you my body for a day you'd understand it

you know what.. darling is exactly the kind of sucker fooled by all.of this.

they lure you in with the spaces and promotions. but what do they deliver.

shopping is a pain in the arse fir most people.

everyone would benefit from : bigger spaces

people patrolling the car park to.keep trollies out the way.

safe walk ways

staff actually on tills.

it's all very well boasting P&c spaces but I'd take trickier parking over having to wait an age for two tills to serve everyone.in the store.

so what of sandwiches are close to.tue door. if the queue at the kiosk o's backing up as u cab still buy 5 items or less there, all open check. outs are full akd people can't he arsed with self service, it's still no quicker.

elderly, disabled, families, it's no easier if amy group these days cos whatever the car park.offers the store is still a pain.on the arse and we can't just walk out cos we all.need food.

Under if I'm not being toady, I know nothing about how to get a blue badge etc. If you have hidden disabilities but a disability all the same can you not get one?

Why do you not fit the blue badge criteria?

I used to park further away despite the pain as I knew I would have space on either side. My BB has been a great asset in the last 18 months as I have got worse.

Stupid phone 'I'm not being goady'

undramatic they aren't a right, they are a little nicety offered by the business. You can park there but the customer who it's actually aimed at can think you are a tosser if they want. They are under no obligation to silently assess everyone they see parking there. It's a risk you will have to run and its not a big deal.
lurked the products you will find most appealing to families will be bread, milk, washing powder, toilet rolls. Everyday family essentials but often bulky and higher value. I suspect "Fox milk" will be more your aspirational twenty something trendy shopper. And therefore merchandised in a local or metro.

I do it in a jokey way not to be confrontational but hopefully they'll rethink it next time.

Saying something arsey in a jokey way doesn't make it any less arsey!!

That's OK sleb here's the criteria

Individual Eligibility
Some people automatically qualify for a Blue Badge. Others may qualify following an assessment if their mobility impairment is severe enough. This is to ensure only those who really need a badge get one.

We do not issue badges for temporary disabilities or for those whose sole condition is of a mental health nature.

Automatic entitlement criteria

You are automatically eligible for a badge if you meet at least one of the following:
You receive the higher rate of the mobility component of Disability Living Allowance
You receive the Personal Independent Payment Mobility Component and your “moving around” score is 8 or more
You are registered severely sight impaired (blind)
You receive a War Pensioner's Mobility Supplement
You have been awarded a lump sum benefit at tariffs 1-8 of the Armed Forces Compensation Scheme and certified as having a permanent disability which causes inability to walk or very considerable difficulty walking.
Discretionary entitlement criteria

You may be eligible for a badge if you have a permanent disability and:
You are unable to walk or have a physical disability that means you are unable to walk very far without experiencing severe discomfort
You drive a motor vehicle regularly, have a severe disability in both arms, and are unable to operate all or some types of parking meter.

I got 4 points on mobility in my pip assessment and have been told I can walk just that bit too far to qualify. Basically I'm not sick enough.