To want p&c spaces to be renamed "easy access" spaces?

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This has been triggered by other threads but also by life events as a person with disabilities and reduced mobility who doesn't fit blue badge criteria.

We all know and love the p&c warriors and I have had the misfortune to be accosted by them in carparks and have had photos of my car plastered on Facebook parking pages as I will use these spaces if they are close to the shops to alleviate fatigue and pain.

Aibu to think there must be a large amount of people like me or with temporary issues like a broken leg or recovering from surgery who could benefit from the rebrand?

No haddock I just believe the spaces should be used by those they are designed for. Parking in taxi spaces would make life easier for all the people on this thread who have stated they need to park in p&c spaces but they don't park in those do they?

Obviously this must be because the need of a parent with young children is considered less than those of anyone else.

Physically being unable to use a normal space doesn't qualify you for a blue badge.

I've had severe SPD for 20 years. I use crutches and a wheelchair. I need the extra room round my car so I can open my door, swing my legs out together and get out of the car. It's impossible to do it without. I can't do it without the aid of someone else now, and I can't drive anymore.

No way could I do that in a "normal space".

The need isn't greater than those with severe disabilities.

Who you have said shouldn't use the spaces.

Those I know with severe disabilities have blue badges so can quite rightly park anywhere.

Why doesn't anyone park in a taxi space if their need is greater? What if there was no p&c spaces left would anyone feel entitled to park in a taxi space then?

Just pointing out to Zinni that SPD presents in different ways. She was lucky she could manage to get out of the car, many aren't. Now the criteria for BB's are changing many who previously qualified are now losing them.

How can anyone be so stupid as to not understand why someone with mobility problems needs extra space?

jesus I'd just stay indoors!

How did people manage before P+C space

OP YANBU at ALL

Plenty with severe disabilities don't have blue badges. You keep choosing to ignore that.

I could give you examples but I'm sure you won't understand so I won't bother.

I'm not ignoring that haddock, if you read my previous post I said that in my area those who need blue badges have them, in fact there isn't enough bb spaces which is something I think should be rectified.

I see everyone keeps ignoring my question that if someone feels they need to or are entitled to use p&c spaces would they park in a space reserved for a taxi if no p&c spaces where available?

I could loads of examples too but I just can't be arsed anymore.

Fuck me. I don't have a hard life compared to many on this thread/ in rl. And I damned well know it.

I'm able bodied. 99% of the occasions I have young kids with me, they are nt for the purposes of this thread. So I get just how fucking easy I have it compared to whoever may have 'deprived' me of a p&c space. Rather than being so selfish I begrudge a tiny thing like a parking space. And nor does being a parent make me part of a 'vulnerable group'

Also any parent that needs to park near the door purely because they can't keep nt toddlers/ kids under control in a carpark should be looking at their parenting skills not bleating about how they are entitled to p&c spaces.

How can you possibly know that all those who need blue badges have them?

No star I wouldn't park in a taxi/pick up bay. Because people with disabilities/ mobility problems also use taxis.

Also any parent that needs to park near the door purely because they can't keep nt toddlers/ kids under control in a carpark should be looking at their parenting skills not bleating about how they are entitled to p&c spaces.

Lurkedforever1 You should post more and lurk less!

Why would anyone want to park in a taxi pick up point

the whole point is that they are a safe designated point where either children at school get in or out of their cars and it keeps shopping trollies or people loading shopping out the road and out the way.

makes life easier for the taxis too, what with having to pick.up complete strangers and not wanting to drive around aimlessly playing "spot the customer"

zinni, you are a veritable saint, well done.

parking in a taxi bay is a parking offence, blue badge holders can't park in a taxi bay

Haddock there was an article in our local paper regarding the lack of bb spaces compared to the amount of bb holders.

Ok lurked so the only reason you wouldn't use them is because disabled people use taxis? And if that was another dig at me my children are non walking babies so nothing to keep under control thanks.

This thread is going no where.

They should either provide easy access spaces in addition to p&c spaces ( us bad parents need these as we can't keep control of our children, maybe we should scrap the 20mph speed limit outside schools too) or people should just park where they are supposed to park.

Everybody (who does not come under the p&c criteria) seems to think they are more in need of or entitled to use the space than anyone else and if those that are entitled to use them do then they are entitled, precious or bad parents.

Also find it amusing that those who are saying that I'm judgemental and unkind? Are the ones who think it's ok to call me a bad parent, precious, entitled and liken me to a racist. How ironic.

I too am curious why no-one has answered the question about why don't you park in spaces reserved for taxis?

The P&C spaces are apparently fair game but not taxi spaces?

If someone is unable to use a normal space due to mobility problems, and the P&C space is the only option, that is different to using one because you have a sprained ankle!

P&C spaces are not legally protected spaces.

None of us are twats. That's why we won't Park in taxi ranks. Plus fwiw when my dc were small enough to need collecting from school I had permission to use the school car park on the days the childminder didn't collect.

I bet you really love me now!

So you don't know that everyone who needs a blue badge has one. You thought that because lots of people have one that must be enough.

Try RTFT Zinni, it has.

Zinni apparently a fine is enough of a deterrent to stop people parking in taxi spaces.