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To not move on the train?

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TheCatsMeow · 12/01/2016 12:30

I was on a very busy packed train with my friend and DS. DS was in a sling, we had the buggy and I was feeding him. We were standing by the doors (no one offered us seats!) trying to feed a screaming baby, penned in by others standing. There was no where we could go.

People tried to push past us to get out the doors and nearly sent DS flying. I firmly asked if they could use one of the other doors and I literally couldn't go anywhere. Cue mutterings and dirty looks!

We couldn't collapse the pram there wasn't room to do and as no one had offered a seat we couldn't move anywhere! WIBU to ask them to use another door?

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bessiebumptious2 · 12/01/2016 21:04

It's not about whether she made an error in judgment or not. She absolutely did. It's become harsh because she won't accept that she made an error!

CouncilOfLadies · 12/01/2016 21:04

Lorelei, I'm a bit like OP, i didn't plan my journey, I just got on the first train and ended up in London. Silly of me, I know.

But despite my not-London ways, I still knew not to block the fucking doors in rush hour. Can I be a proper Londoner now?Smile

laylabelle · 12/01/2016 21:05

Don't understand this....and surley by the time people realised they couldn't get out and tried to get off the other exit they're on their way to somewhere they don't want to be?!it's not a London thing it's people not wanting to visit other stations thing.

Toughasoldboots · 12/01/2016 21:05

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kali110 · 12/01/2016 21:06

*Hey OP, I'm guessing from now on you'll run to the cuddle den of validation that is Nethuns,yes?

Your bubz. Your rulez*

Hell no, op would get slaughtered!
Thankfully things like this, posters on nm don't take too kindly too!

GlindatheFairy · 12/01/2016 21:06

You were lucky you were only slightly jostled, OP. If it'd have been me not being able to get off at my stop to get back home to my own children, I'd have picked up you, your child and your buggy and have deposited you in the middle of the platform out of everybody's way.

Don't take a train again until you learn basic etiquette, there's a dear.

ihaterain · 12/01/2016 21:06

OP, what buggy DO you have?

JassyRadlett · 12/01/2016 21:07

I do try and fold it if it's really busy however I'm not going to put myself out by missing a train because I can't fold it.

What kind of buggy do you have that is so difficult to fold? Especially with the baby in a sling?

I have never seen others do this

Again, other people being twats does not excuse one's own twattish behaviour.

donadumaurier · 12/01/2016 21:07

Laylabelle yes. This is exactly what happened to me. I was 20, I'd just been sexually harassed and I just wanted to get back to my mum's and away from where it happened. I ended up half an hour away in a strange station having a panic attack. People like the OP are disgusting.

SmellsLikeMiddleAgeSpirit · 12/01/2016 21:11

I do try and fold it if it's really busy however I'm not going to put myself out by missing a train because I can't fold it

And yet you expected other people to miss this train because you didn't fold your buggy and it was taking up a person-sized space? You called the people who came on after you "idiots"

There was a slug comment earlier with which I heartily agree.

TheCatsMeow · 12/01/2016 21:12

Second yes I do help them. In fact I never mention my hypermobility unless asked as I tend to assume others need more help than I.

This was one situation where I could have done with someone being considerate.

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Only1scoop · 12/01/2016 21:12

'Just checked him in his bed'

Dear God

kali110 · 12/01/2016 21:12

Drive. The public transport system is designed for single, able bodied people who are not carrying very much. It's pretty hopeless for anyone else.

Wow how do i manage? I will never drive and rely on it.
Had my moans but managed to survive for the 18 years i started getting it on my own...

kali110 · 12/01/2016 21:15

Omg you just don't get it!
You put people out!
Possibly people with disabilities too and you just don't care!
If you acted on the train the way you have on this thread i'm not surprised nobody offered you any help!

Veterinari · 12/01/2016 21:16

OP YANBU

You're perfectly entitled to never to plan your journey and just turn up at the station at rush hour despite having the freedom to travel at any point in the day, and to wait for your train, but not to use that waiting time to fold your buggy. It's entirely reasonable for you to get into a packed train with your bags, baby, clumsy friend and buggy at rush hour but totally unreasonable for other people to get on behind you. I also think it's fair enough that you brought a buggy but chose to carry your heavy DS all day and exacerbate your medical condition - others should understand that this is your choice and make allowances.

It understandable that your buggy should block the exit from the train despite the contravening the conditions of your ticket, and you definitely shouldn't have to fold it to allow busy commuters who have no choice but to travel at this time to exit. I can totally understand that you're brave enough to redirect them but not brave enough to ask anyone to create a bit of space so you could fold the buggy. It would also be reasonable to take a seat if offered and leave your unattended buggy blocking the emergency exit.

It's definitely reasonable that your friend should offer assistance at any point and you should certainly consider yourself a lone traveller despite having another adult with you.

It's completely unreasonable that commuters with their own families and no choice about when to travel should express frustration at your choices. Having already made their way to the exit where you were standing, they should instead have turned without a murmur along the aisles and got off at another door. And if another mum with a buggy was there then they should just keep moving down.

If only everyone was as considerate and thoughtful as you OP, the world would be a better place Flowers

LilacSpunkMonkey · 12/01/2016 21:16

Does anyone else think that there's a pool going on another site right now about who can keep a thread going longest on here?

This seems to be developing into a bit of a pattern.

And why have HQ done nothing other than a lazy link to guidelines?

TheCatsMeow · 12/01/2016 21:16

I put people out...for most people it isn't difficult to walk to another door.

No one cares that making me move a buggy with a screaming baby I was trying to feed was putting me out do they?

But those poor commuters.

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Veterinari · 12/01/2016 21:18

Probably because you chose the baby, the buggy and to travel at rush hour. They didn't.

Take some responsibility for your choices

PaulAnkaTheDog · 12/01/2016 21:19

Can't believe this is still going. What a waste of good internet space. Stop being a tooln OP. It's no longer funny, you're just behaving like a knob now.

donadumaurier · 12/01/2016 21:20

No people can't just move to another door you idiot because the train will leave before they can! How many times do you need to be told?? You are not the only commuter who uses trains, stop saying commuters and get it into your head the world does not revolve around you. end of.

Sirzy · 12/01/2016 21:20

Can we clarify if you or your friend had the buggy because it is changing to suit your story with every other post!

If you are blocking a door on a train then no matter what you have to expect to move if people need jay door. I don't see why that's hard to understand?

JassyRadlett · 12/01/2016 21:20

This was one situation where I could have done with someone being considerate.

So why didn't you ask one person on the train if not chocolate teapot friend for help holding something while you folded the buggy, or ask some people to squeeze past you to give you space to fold the buggy?

That way you'd have been both showing and receiving consideration.

TheCatsMeow · 12/01/2016 21:20

The train doesn't leave before you can get to another door I've done it myself before. Unless you're walking like a stoned tortoise you can get to the other door.

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donadumaurier · 12/01/2016 21:21

Only non commuter. You've made me so angry I've lost the ability to type properly. I really am going now. I hope you never experience the nightmare that is being stuck on a train to the next stop because of selfish idiots like you.

donadumaurier · 12/01/2016 21:21

Yes it does, OP. It happened to me because of someone like you. Read the thread.

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