To not move on the train?

[TheCatsMeow]

I was on a very busy packed train with my friend and DS. DS was in a sling, we had the buggy and I was feeding him. We were standing by the doors (no one offered us seats!) trying to feed a screaming baby, penned in by others standing. There was no where we could go.

People tried to push past us to get out the doors and nearly sent DS flying. I firmly asked if they could use one of the other doors and I literally couldn't go anywhere. Cue mutterings and dirty looks!

We couldn't collapse the pram there wasn't room to do and as no one had offered a seat we couldn't move anywhere! WIBU to ask them to use another door?

and I don't see why I should

So everyone else can use the doors for their intended purpose, i.e., getting on and off the fucking train. That's what doors are for, even in NonLondon. NonLondoners don't like it when you block their exits, and potentially cause them to miss their stop, as you discovered today. You were being glared at because you were pissing off numerous NonLondoners on the NonLondon train. By blocking the door.

The solution is to not block the NonLondon doors on the NonLondon trains where NonLondon people are trying to travel about places that aren't London and generally get on with life outside London.

PaulAnkaTheDog some of my friends are in their early 20' s with young babies and do not act this way.
I would never have thought it was ok yo act this way when i were you g either!
i don't see why i should because that is what you do? It is the polite and consideratething to do.

Did you break your keyboard typing that border

I thought other parents would be supportive. Obviously not as this is MN, where we happily rip into each other.

Other parents would be supportive of you weren't being so entitled.
I'm a commuter AND a mother. I can see both sides. Yes you have a baby and a buggy and you're tured and you paid for your ticket. But what about the surgeon who has been stood in an operating theatre all day working in a very stressful environment, or the police officer who has walked half of London that day and been punched in the face, or the nurse who has been on their feet all day cleaning faeces and vomit... A bit of empathy for goodness sake - the world does not revolve around you because you have a baby!

If your train had an entirely free carriage to walk down it was not full and you could have moved into it yourself where someone with a seat would have noticed you and offered you there's. Trust me I'm a very experienced commuter if there were people sat down and they saw you you would have been offered a seat - no doubt. It's because they didn't or couldn't see you. Which is where you simply say out loud 'I'm terribly sorry but I need to feed my baby would anyone mind me taking their seat'. I can guarantee almost 100% at least 4 or 5 people would have stood up immediately.

But no you just carry on being outraged and entitled. If you can't take the fact we are saying YABU maybe you'll think twice about posting in the future.

You can't argue with stupid.

TheCatsMeow - are you seriously saying you think it would be OK to leave your buggy up in the lobby so people needed to climb over it?

Have you no concept of how hazardous that would be for even able-bodied passengers?

You say you don't do planning - well, let me advise you to learn how to plan, pretty damn quick. There will come a time where you are not just trying to get home from a jolly day out, but are trying to get a small child up, fed, dressed and into school on time - I have done this and it takes planning, if you don't want to be the disorganised parent whose child is always late, and doesn't have their lunch box/trip permission form/homework/PE kit because you haven't planned your mornings!!

I would avoid trains in commuter hours in future - not because you have no right to be on them, but because commuters behave like a herd of single minded twats and it is dangerous to be around them unless you are physically fit and of at least average height.

Sunnybitch the L, O, N and D keys are looking a little worn at this point...

Also not in London.

Was in Birmingham for 39 years, where we - gasp - fold buggies when required, now in Dorset where just this morning I witnessed a woman fold her buggy to get on the bus.

The buggy-folding, public transport-using, non-Londoner, considerate-of-other-people bitch.

Just remembered when my hair got shut in the doors on the central line. Tripped over someone's luggage when I got on and as I stood up the friggin doors closed on my long hair. So half my barnet was on its way to tottenhan court road and the other half was flapping around at oxford circus.

I don't believe I've ever read a thread on here which has had such a majority YABU, with the OP so steadfast in their belief they were right.

Oh God I've wasted far too much time on this thread already today but now I see there's a cunning plot to divide and rule the hapless public with the clever use of London/nonLondon... well played op.

Can you imagine the pandemonium the OP is trying to trigger. Train approaches station. Tired commuters make their way to either end of the carriage to get off. One entitled passenger is blocking the exit insisting everyone goes to the other end of the carriage. Meanwhile, at the other end everyone has got off and all the new passengers are hurrying to get on and claim the empty seats. Now the passengers who want to get off have got to fight their way through everyone getting on and coming up the aisle the opposite direction. Chaos ensues.

I am going to watch 'throw mamma off the train' tonight now.

Always makes me chortle

..."the cuddleden of validation that is Nethuns..."

Quite possibly the best thing I have read on MN all day, ElectronicDischarge!!

so the bad news is no one liked my poem

the good news is we're allowed to describe the country as "London" and "non-London". yay!

I bet they are border I can just imagine you hitting each key with emphasis

Hope you were OK sugar91 the way described it tho did make me laugh

I don't see why I should fold my buggy on a busy train

That's because you have the IQ of a slug. Let's hope stupidity isn't hereditary for Audacity's sake.

Hope that helps.

Off to cuddleden station to await the train

Lorelei I liked your poem .

Validation topic MN HQ?

the good news is we're allowed to describe the country as "London" and "non-London". yay!

It's going to make AIBU threads so much easier.

OP: AIBU to block this driveway? The person who lives there glared at me and complained they had to get to work.

MN: Are you in London?

OP: No!

MN: YANBU. They shouldn't have glared at you- they're probably some middle class commuter. Those twats are always planning shit and trying to get to places on time. Self important arseholes.

(I liked your poem!)

I'm not in London or the SE. People around here fold their pushchairs unless there's plenty of space on the train. The National Rail Conditions of Carriage (you know, the terms you agree to when you buy your ticket, even though nobody ever seems to read them) state that pushchairs must be capable of being folded. Now, maybe I'm just being daft but that to me would imply that passengers are expected to fold their pushchairs...

The Conditions also state luggage and other articles (i.e. pushchairs) can be refused if, among other things, they cause inconvenience, there isn't enough room, or they are not carried in a suitable manner. You're lucky a train manager or guard didn't come along or you may have been booted off!

Lorelei I liked your poem too! It was inspired.