To not move on the train?

[TheCatsMeow]

I was on a very busy packed train with my friend and DS. DS was in a sling, we had the buggy and I was feeding him. We were standing by the doors (no one offered us seats!) trying to feed a screaming baby, penned in by others standing. There was no where we could go.

People tried to push past us to get out the doors and nearly sent DS flying. I firmly asked if they could use one of the other doors and I literally couldn't go anywhere. Cue mutterings and dirty looks!

We couldn't collapse the pram there wasn't room to do and as no one had offered a seat we couldn't move anywhere! WIBU to ask them to use another door?

You think all commuters are twats?! That's the dumbest things I've ever heard. Second only to your dumb behavior on the train. Why couldn't you feed the baby before you got on for one thing. Next time travel when people who need to get to work (aka 'twats') are not traveling. Then you can spread yourself out to your hearts content and don't have to mix with the majority of us - the aforementioned 'twats'

Calling it. This is a pile of bollocksy shite.

Calling it. This is a pile of bollocksy shite.

But it's been fun directing my ire at someone today.

"paul usually public transport is fine. Never had a big problem before apart from rude commuters pushing everyon"

The only rude person in this scenario is you
OP.

*Why couldn't you feed the baby before you got on for one thing. Next time travel when people who need to get to work (aka 'twats') are not traveling.
I feed on demand, and he has little and often.

People with kids should not be denigrated to off peak times.

I still don't understand why you couldn't have told the people standing around you to move so you could fold the buggy? Especially as you were quite confident enough to tell them to go and use another exit? And then also why you couldn't have told someone to move to let you sit down? On all the trains I've been on there have been priority seats near the doors for people who need them, including parents with small children.

Your ire is pretty tame goodnight

I think that people expect to make 'reasonable adjustment' for parents with babies. That would involve giving up a seat or offering to help with the buggy. I do this myself.

What is not reasonable is to take up space with an unfolded buggy, with bags hanging off that buggy, with handbags, shopping bags and a baby in a sling not even using the buggy.

The solution is to massively condense your bags to one nappy bag in which you also keep your purse in a side pocket. That one single bag can then be easily moved to the floor when finding up the buggy. If you take zipable bags for life when out shopping then those additional bags can soso be placed on the floor.

If pressed in by other passengers ask one of them for help to fold up buggy "so we can all have more room".

YABU to take up such vast amounts of space that you cause an obstruction to everyone else.

If it's any consolation OP, if I'd been on that train, I would have offered you my seat.
Even though I'm a twatting commuter

I don't think the world revolves around me. I'm asking for a bit of patience in one situation. Jesus Christ why is that too much to ask

Being patient wouldn't help them egress a blocked door at all any quicker.

People with kids should not be denigrated to off peak times

I agree, but then don't moan when it's busy and you don't have any room and people get annoyed with you!

I would love to be able to travel in quiet times but unfortunately I can't as I have to be at work at 8.30. Why anyone would choose to travel in rush hour when they didn't have to is beyond me.

Your ire is pretty tame goodnight

I could swear at you in all caps, but not that's not how I roll in online debate. I'm not a troll unlike some

If you want to travel as a mum during peak times, suck it up and do your utmost not to get in the way of other people, don't whine when it's obvious you're in other people's way and you and your "friend" are standing around like plebs.

This is one of those 'am I being unreasonable?'

Everyone - 'Yes'

OP - 'No, you're ALL wrong'

Christ on a bike OP! Just flipping well admit you were massively unreasonable and be done with it! I'm starting to feel embarrassed for you now, it's really quite sad how you see yourself as so feeble and incapable now that you have a baby with you!

Look up what 'denigrated' means, OP

Aww Pt Pike, course you're in real life.

OP has reached a new astonishing level, claiming "no one in real life has these views" when she originally came on here to complain about people in real life having these views:

People tried to push past us to get out the doors and nearly sent DS flying. I firmly asked if they could use one of the other doors... Cue mutterings and dirty looks!

Remember earlier OP, when you wrote that? Those were people you actually saw in real life, thinking you were a selfish, inconsiderate wally just like we do. :)

Of course you should be able to feed your baby on the train, that's not the issue at all. Babies don't tend to do things for the adults convenience and feeding before boarding might not be possible.

culture I should have asked them to move

People with kids should not be denigrated to off peak times.

True. And commuters shouldn't be made to exit a train differently due to parents choosing to travel during peak times.

But since you're so sensible I'm sure you realised that after you posted?

If it's really busy I do try to but I've never seen anyone else do it

I don't understand why you or your friend couldn't have folded the buggy on the platform. You said it's because the train came. Was there really no time to fold the buggy or did you not fold the buggy because you've never seen anyone else do it?

(I feel like bloody Columbo here).

I agree with you regarding mn. As i don't believe if you refused to move and told people to use another door that people wouldn't just move your buggy!

Please stop changing your replies with regards to 'able bodied'.
For domebody who claims to have spd you don't seem to care that you put people out including potentially with disabilities!

Again, i would have missed my stop!!
I can walk more than 5 meters, im in severe pain though!
Depending on days i'm not very fast either. I have no coordination and am unsteady on my feet.
If you'd blocked my entrance i wouldn't have mAde it to the next one before the train moved!

I work in South Kensington and while most people are lovely, you do get the odd person like the OP who looks both astounded and affronted that commuters also exist. I even heard one of them say the other day 'well it's so busy because of all these bloody commuters'. Erm no love, we're here every day because we have no choice in the matter. You chose to travel back with three DC at 5.30!

I think OP couldn't fold the buggy as it had shopping on it: even if she folded it the shopping left would still occupy the same space anyway. Even if you hold your shopping it takes the same amount of space.

Maybe OP could take less equipment with her next time if she can. Some babies (if breastfed) can go through periods of very runny poo going through their backs up to their neck many times a day so they would need many changes of clothes. I always had a huge baby bag with me on the train but we never traveled during peak hours.

Asking people to go all the way back in a busy train when other people will have entered from the other entrances in the meanwhile is unreasonable and time wasting for the other person as they will miss their stop.

Leelu I asked already. not surprisingly it wasn't answered.