To not move on the train?

[TheCatsMeow]

I was on a very busy packed train with my friend and DS. DS was in a sling, we had the buggy and I was feeding him. We were standing by the doors (no one offered us seats!) trying to feed a screaming baby, penned in by others standing. There was no where we could go.

People tried to push past us to get out the doors and nearly sent DS flying. I firmly asked if they could use one of the other doors and I literally couldn't go anywhere. Cue mutterings and dirty looks!

We couldn't collapse the pram there wasn't room to do and as no one had offered a seat we couldn't move anywhere! WIBU to ask them to use another door?

YABU for travelling with a baby in rush hour when there was no need to - what did you expect?

All while your friend did precisely fuck all to help in any way.

Ok, if you were to the side of the door, and people were trying to get on behind you, what was happening to the side of you? The side not blocked by the pushchair?

I'm not saying that. I'm saying that if you're travelling on a train and don't have severe mobility needs but the person by the door can't move, you could go to the other side.

If one of the people couldn't get to the other door. What would you have done then!! Doors should be be able to get out of

YOU STILL AREN'T ANSWERING AS TO WHAT YOUR FRIEND WAS DOING OTHER THAN CARRYING A FEW BAGS. using capitals in the hope the op will actually answer

I would have thought standing in the aisle is worse because then people would push past me whereas in the doorway they can get to another door.

If people stand in the aisle, that means there's less congestion in the spaces round the door. How hard is that to understand? You could have moved into the aisle with your baby - yes, people would have had to push past you, but it's a whole lot better than getting to the door you want to exit by and then being made to rush down to another door because some twat won't move to let you out. Also, as you keep ignoring, if you had been in the aisle you would have massively improved your chances of getting a seat.

Your friend was trying not to fall over despite apparently being hemmed in on all sides and holding the buggy? If she can't avoid falling over even when it's so crowded that other people are effectively holding her up, she really needs to keep off public transport in the rush hour.

My friend was holding the buggy and is extremely clumsy (so am I, I was worried I would slip) so was trying not to fall over.

In other words doing nothing and causing an obstruction!

I've never seen anyone stand in aisles here unless the door is full.

I've told you several times my friend was holding the buggy and bags?

Ah, well that makes this whole debacle acceptable then...

OP was about to fold her buggy, even though nobody EVER does that in this mysterious "not London" place, and even though it was crammed with bags, but didn't have time because the train came.

OP has a hidden disability yet thinks everyone not in a wheelchair or on crutches is "able bodied".

OP had baby in a sling yet he was nearly "sent flying" by arsehole commuters.

The train was packed but only by the doors, where there wasn't room to move an inch, and not in the aisles which were completely clear.

OP is comfortable "firmly" telling people to walk to the other end of the carriage rather than disturb her PFB, but is too uncomfortable to ask for a seat.

Okay then!

Sellis you and the op going on about not being offered a seat, what happened to your mouth? Why can't you open it and ask?

I would have offered you a seat if you had asked, but to me you are just as any other commuter. Even if your baby is screaming his head off its up to you to ask.

Why didn't your friend put the bags down and fold the buggy? Or move with the buggy to a quieter part of the train? Presumably they knew where to get off and didn't need you to guide them.

Don't be so bloody entitled. That is all

Come on now Kaki. Don't be so sensible about this situation!

Kaki's got it. OP is confusing and contradictory in an effort to be right

The buggy doesn't fit down the aisle Paul so we couldn't move to a quieter bit. I think it was busy everywhere too

this thread is starting to make me laugh (I know some of you were laughing ages ago and Alice, excellent names).

but now, OP, now you tell us you and your friend are both very clumsy. So:

2 clumsy people (1 with baby in sling attached) + 1 buggy + x (several) shopping bags on crowded train (we think rush hour train and shopping because you haven't clarified) = try not to do this again, okay?!

in real life I don't know anyone who folds buggies on trains and I have never, ever seen anyone do it. I think it is reasonable to have an unfolded buggy on a train, being out and about with a baby is knackering.

I commute regularly on a very busy train that can be horrendous and I would not expect someone to fold a buggy.

OP getting ridiculously hard time.

Able bodied enough to walk 5 metres. Which I'm fairly confident assuming people were.

Your friend should have folded the buggy or you should have waited for the next train.

Not read anything so entitled in a long time. The world doesn't revolve around you.

Ok, so far it's been "I would have been in the way in the aisle" and "No one stands in the aisle!", now it's "Buggy is too big for the aisle."

Do me a favour.

So why not fold it? Also, why not mention that way before now, when everyone was saying stand in the aisle.

waterrat thank you. If it's really busy I do try to but I've never seen anyone else do it.