To not move on the train?

[TheCatsMeow]

I was on a very busy packed train with my friend and DS. DS was in a sling, we had the buggy and I was feeding him. We were standing by the doors (no one offered us seats!) trying to feed a screaming baby, penned in by others standing. There was no where we could go.

People tried to push past us to get out the doors and nearly sent DS flying. I firmly asked if they could use one of the other doors and I literally couldn't go anywhere. Cue mutterings and dirty looks!

We couldn't collapse the pram there wasn't room to do and as no one had offered a seat we couldn't move anywhere! WIBU to ask them to use another door?

Best thread in a long while. The stupidity and entitlement is at a whole new level.

I've had to sit on the wee seats by the door with my pram up, ds was only about 7 months old so wasn't sitting up on his own. Nobody offered me a seat and the train man screamed at me for being in the way each time he had to go and open the doors, but where exactly was I suppose to go? It was my first time with ds on a train so I was crazy stressed and it was a five hour journey. It was hell

Someone did this to us recently. I had to traipse with a terminally ill mother with mobility problems and two children one of who has additional needs. My Mum made herself ill rushing and we missed our stop because we struggled to get through the other door bit too.

I would have called the guard I think, if someone was re directing passengers.

Where do you live that trains regularly have guards on? We hardly see anyone.

I would have thought standing in the aisle is worse because then people would push past me whereas in the doorway they can get to another door. It seems most other people thought that as everyone was in the doors and none in the aisle

Also the person who said only commuters should travel at rush hour is being really ridiculous

Sellis people are arseholes about it and don't understand how stressed you can be when you've got kids or other issues. Consideration from commuters who aren't carrying heavy weight around would be lovely

if you need to change carriage (train splitting), you have to wait for the train to stop, get out and run down the train outside, then get on the correct carriage.

That's awful

YABU if you don't collapse the pram, even if the train is not crowded there is precious little space for a pram by the doors. You'd have got short shrift from somebody, or at least icy glares, if you'd tried that on the train I commute to work on but not from me, I'm not that confident

But Alison the fact YOU know what a packed train means has no relevance to the situation of the OP.

For one, it probably doesn't mean anything to her (and it doesn't to me either. Never been on a train like that). It WAS packed for all those people in the train though (Not just the OP) and that's the bit that is actually relevant. All people concerned should have adapted their behavipour to the train bysiness (which it was to them).
Second, what is normal to do in one place isn't always normal in another. IT's all good too scream at the OP that she should fold her puschair before hand or that she should wait for the next train (Where I am the next train is more than one hour later, not 15 mins ....) so again expectations and what is or not possible isn't the same. It's just not comparable. No one folds their prams where I live. Ever.

I'm still amazed that so few people have raised the issue of the other passengers who could/should have moved out of the way. Again, in the trains I am taking (which aren't London commuting stuff), a pram on its own never blocks a door.
(I'm aware this is not the case again in London. The carriages are just different)

CatsMeow so you don't think you're being even a smidge unreasonable then?
Is it really just that everyone who isn't you and your chocolate teapot mate is a twat?
Carry on travelling at rush hour then, seeing as you enjoy it so much! Next time maybe bring like a picnic table or something?

Sellis people are arseholes about it and don't understand how stressed you can be when you've got kids or other issues. Consideration from commuters who aren't carrying heavy weight around would be lovely

You weren't on your own. What was your useless friend actually doing!

don't understand how stressed you can be when you've got kids or other issues

And for the 50th time this thread, some of those people who were struggling to get off the train - which might only have had its doors open for a few seconds - will be parents stressed about collecting their kids on time.

I have to say, i wouldn't stand in the aisle either. I would stay near the doors where I'm not as much in the way.

I DO have an issue with having a go at the commuters though. They have paid their tickets just like everyone else and everyone should make an effort.

All people concerned should have adapted their behavipour to the train bysiness (which it was to them).

OP and 'friend' certainly didn't seem to be

*Second, what is normal to do in one place isn't always normal in another. IT's all good too scream at the OP that she should fold her puschair before hand or that she should wait for the next train (Where I am the next train is more than one hour later, not 15 mins ....) so again expectations and what is or not possible isn't the same. It's just not comparable. No one folds their prams where I live. Ever.

I'm still amazed that so few people have raised the issue of the other passengers who could/should have moved out of the way. Again, in the trains I am taking (which aren't London commuting stuff), a pram on its own never blocks a door.
(I'm aware this is not the case again in London. The carriages are just different)*

I agree with all of this. A pram on its own doesn't block the door here either.

Maybe I was being U to call commuters twats but I find some of their attitudes really annoying. The London centric ness annoys me too. Other places exist you know!

Why the fuck didn't your friend help you get out of the way?

I'm not saying that. I'm saying that if you're travelling on a train and don't have severe mobility needs but the person by the door can't move, you could go to the other side.

I do that when I'm travelling and I can see the person by the door won't move. Why can't I be afforded the same courtesy

My friend was holding the buggy and is extremely clumsy (so am I, I was worried I would slip) so was trying not to fall over.

You do know that many London commuters have kids, right?

firstmum

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And for other commuters not to realise that theres a big buggy blocking the door - il just make my way to a clear one - they must be high!!! i avoid buggies when i can - unless theres a mum in need."

Are u crazy?
Do you have any idea what rush hour is like?
I am rushing home to collect my child - i am not risking missing my train because some silly person won't fold down their buggy and/or move into the empty aisle.

Ok OP. Clarify the situation for us.

You went shopping, didn't have time to fold the buggy (bit contradictory, as you said earlier you don't ever see anyone folding buggies, so why you'd think to now is Beyond me), so took it on the train. You then proceeded to block other train users with the buggy and complain about others getting on around you. Then you decided that all passengers should alight from the train at a different exit, so not to inconvenience you.

That about right?