Bloody aspartame poisoning...

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Is not real and has been disproved time and time again. Aibu to get cross every time someone says its toxic blah blah blah! There is one group of people who should avoid it if they have a certain rare condition otherwise it's completely safe.
Rant over!

The average person on the street probably knows more about sugar than aspartame. That is not the same as saying that the total depth of human knowledge of sugar is greater than that of aspartame.

My grandmother didn't recognise couscous as food. That'd never stop me eating it. She also loved tripe and pigs trotters, and I've never been able to stomach those!

pip my butter stays fine in a regular butter dish for weeks. My kitchen isn't overly warm tho.

Thank you both. I will try the old butter dish again. I think you are right about people using it more in the old days.

I am a terrible cook and never do much so it'll have to last a while - mind you it's nice, so I may end up eating it non stop

Our kitchen has no heating so maybe we will be Ok in the colder months

Who cares what the total depth of human knowledge on aspartame is? It tastes rank. Why devote so much research to something so gross?... It would make far more sense to research sugar more vigorously if that is currently under-researched. Who knows - then maybe some genius scientist will then conclude that small doses of sugar are good for you.

Soft drinks with sugar in are rank imo. The sugar also coats your teeth

Anyone who wants to make dietary choices based on scientific evidence would care about what the total human knowledge on the subject was, I imagine. And I understand research on sugar continues to this very day. As I said, I don't trust my tastebuds - they also like fatty foods far too much! My brain, on the other hand recognises that too much cheese probably would kill me so I moderate. Maybe I'm just addicted to cheese.

My diet would be horrific if I applied the 'would my grandmother recognise this as food' test.

Tinned meat, plain boiled (floury) potatoes, brassicas boiled for hours, thick layers of marg on slices of cheap white bread to fill you up, and nothing to drink with it (because it might fill you up). Bleurgh.

roundabout scientific knowledge is cumulative, every year we add to our past knowledge. As technology and research techniques improve so does our understanding of everything. That's why it seems that advice is constantly changing.

With that in mind, I think the 'does this taste vile?' test may be much better than the grandmother test.

I heard aspartame hasn't been around long enough to know it's safe.

Ah well if you heard it, it must be true

Lovelyfriend reckons she's directly quoted me, I say bollocks. Read it again and you will see I am comparing the bad science of the MMR scandal and aspartame NOT the possible harmful effects.
I am not a massive consumer of diet drinks but they have a role to play in an occasional treat for someone who fancies a fizzy drink and are watching their sugar intake. They don't taste as nice as full sugar though.
It's funny how it really hits a raw nerve with some people. I haven't linked to the research as there's no need. It's all over the internet if you know which are reliable sources. Like NHS for example, who tend to use quite robust research to advise the public, thankfully!

I don't think it tastes vile. I much prefer the taste of diet coke to normal coke. And I don't find any vile taste in sugar free squash etc. I guess it's like practically all other tastes, some like it, some dont.

I find it pretty amusing when people at work or whatever notice me drinking diet coke and give me a lecture on aspatarmine as if I have never heard it before. I just smile and nod and say I've looked into it myself and then keep drinking my diet coke.

I'll have you all know that my aunt Nellie died from aspartame poisoning, so it's a very serious matter. You should not make light of it.

It tastes like shit as well.

I think i'd like to revise my grandma motto to 'a grandma' so for eg my Italian grandmas would recognise gnocchi and someone else's grandma could recognise the couscous/korma/kimchi etc.

no I don't notice the taste either - I'm currently enjoying a diet Pepsi - yummy

(45 - no fillings ...)

Going back to the beginning of this thread, who gives gum to their dog? Or am I missing something?

I like the taste of it. I don't like sugar, I much prefer chemicals.

Haven't you ever smelled a dog's breath, Scholes?

If your butter goes off in a butter dish at room temperature faster than you use it, just put half a block out and keep the rest in the fridge.

We buy softer pure butter (Kerrygold, M&S own brand or Loseley Summer Meadow) in winter and any old normal butter when it stays soft of it's own accord.

No need for any kind of nasty spreads and I think they might now be starting to admit that saturated animal fat is not as bad for the heart or arteries as has been claimed in recently decades.

Seems that the French Paradox might not have been a paradox after all.

I don't think that artificial sweeteners are good because they taste disgusting and encourage a sweet tooth and dependency on sweet tastes.

I don't routinely drink any sort of fizzy pop and drink mainly unsweetened tea, coffee, water, wine or gin and tonic occasionally. Probably have a couple of litres of 'fizzy' a year if that and that is almost all tonic in gin.

I would apply the Grandmother test to anyone's Grandmother, eg one from the Mediteranean, Asia, or anywhere with a better food culture than post war Britain.

Yes, Scholes, that's a good point. Who the hell does that? Call the RSPCA, some nut is feeding their dog gum. And we're here worrying about all the humans. Priorities people!

Aspartame causes brain cancer.
Sugar causes diabetes and / or tooth dacay.

You choose!

I've been told that on facebook that it could make my epilepsy and leg pains worse. Problem is I hate tea with no sugar, especially my new decaf. tea, trying to reduce caffeine to lower my stress! Supposed to have results within 24/48 hours. Might give it a go and report back if leg pains improve.
Am bloody tempted though to say sod it and go back to proper diet coke and tea!

Aspartame causes brain cancer and sugar causes diabetes. Why not avoid sweetened food and drink altogether?

My mum died of Glioma. She was a Diet Coke addict. (2-4 cans a day).

Scholes dogs steal food from bags, kitchen counters, tables, anywhere they can reach. My friend's dog ate some sugar free gum (xylitol) and was hospitalised for 3 days. He had two or three pieces and weighs about 4 stone. My dog has eaten kiwi fruit out of the fruit bowl, peaches, nectarines, butter, cup cakes, bread. He is allowed in the kitchen and to begin we didn't realise how greedy he is.

Exactly Ophelia It's not like all these sweet drinks are a basic or compulsory food stuff and no matter what you believe on the subject of nutritional health are not intended for daily consumption, more an occasional thing (once a week or less).