Bloody aspartame poisoning...

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Is not real and has been disproved time and time again. Aibu to get cross every time someone says its toxic blah blah blah! There is one group of people who should avoid it if they have a certain rare condition otherwise it's completely safe.
Rant over!

Oooh Ophelia, you must be joking! It doesn't cause cancer though does it? Did you read the thread at all ?

Correlation does not equal causation.

Especially not when your sample group is one. Your anecdote is NOT scientific evidence.

Who is of ingesting anything? We eat and drink because we need and like it!
XiCi i have no problem with aspartame. I have no idea what people are saying when they how horrible it is and tastes etc i can necer taste this awful thing!

"Aspartame causes brain cancer."

0phelia, I am very sorry that your mother died of brain cancer.

However, there is no evidence that aspartame causes brain cancer.

(Neither does sugar itself "cause" diabetes, but I can send you a copy of my thesis as I don't have space here for that!)

www.cancer.org/cancer/cancercauses/othercarcinogens/athome/aspartame

One early study suggested that an increased rate of brain tumors in the US during the 1980s might have been related to aspartame use. However, according to the National Cancer Institute (NCI), the increase in brain tumor rates actually began back in the early 1970s, well before aspartame was in use. And most of the increase was seen in people age 70 and older, a group that was not exposed to the highest doses of aspartame, which might also make this link less likely. Other studies have not found an increase in brain tumors related to aspartame use.

In the largest study of this issue, researchers from the NCI looked at cancer rates in more than 500,000 older adults. The study found that, compared to people who did not drink aspartame-containing beverages, those who did drink them did not have an increased risk of lymphomas, leukemias, or brain tumors.

A recent study of more than 125,000 people found a link between consumption of aspartame sweetened soda and the risk of leukemia, lymphoma, and multiple myeloma in men, but not in women. Since it also found a link between sugar sweetened soda and lymphoma in men, the researchers concluded that the links they found could be explained by chance.

Always a good time to link to the website that someone else mentioned earlier:

Spurious Correlations

Enjoy!

I don't like artificial sweeteners - they taste awful to me. I'd rather have a proper tonic in my occasional gin and drink unsweetened drinks on a daily basis.

Better not to cultivate a sweet tooth at all, imho.

The FDA found aspartame to be unsafe and was banned twice. Unscrupulous methods were applied in forcing it into commercial food supply.

www.rense.com/general33/legal.htm

www.theguardian.com/world/shortcuts/2015/apr/28/diet-pepsi-dropped-aspatame-in-us-is-artificial-sweetener-dangerous

On the hard butter question, if you desperately need softened butter quickly, try slicing a thin piece off, stick it on your toast and put the other slice of toast over the top (everyone always has two slices, right?) enveloping it in toasty warmness for a bit. Then you can spread it! Technique perfected at hotels which give you ice-cold pats of butter.
OR you can grate it onto the toast and the grated bits warm up really fast. Or you can bash the whole pack with a rolling pin to a thin butter pancake (like they do on Bake Off when they are doing pastry) and that will also help it warm up fast.

Pepsi dropped it as a marketing ploy - ironically because people where stopping drinking aspartame due to scare mongering

www.sciencebasedmedicine.org/aspartame-truth-vs-fiction/

Scholes, one of the big brands did a marketing drive where they posted out free samples of their latest xylitol containing gum.

Lots of bored lonely dogs smelled foodstuff and ate the envelopes. Vets started reporting this odd hypoglycaemia to the vet poisons unit in london, some bright spark put all the cases together and realised it was the xylitol.

My grandma had multiple strokes, with the final one killing her. She ate loads of potatoes - often 2 out of three meals a day. Correlation, however, is NOT causation. Turns out the strokes were due to crappy genetics, smoking, lack of exercise and very high fat foods.

YouthHostellingWithChrisEubank - yes, scientific knowledge and understanding is cumulative. That's why it is a bad idea to believe everything scientists tell you. What with them not knowing everything, yet, and all.

No scientist worth his or her salt would say aspartame is harmless to humans. There is just insufficient evidence it causes any serious problems to human health...

But you can't say that about ANYTHING.

You can't prove a negative and say that something is harmless, just that there is no evidence of harm (something that also eludes the anti-vaxxers).

Goodness me, water is harmful if you take too much of it! (I have diagnosed water intoxication once and it does kill!)

Of course you can say that about anything. That's why you should stop trying to force other people to follow your beliefs.

I'm not trying to force anyone to "follow my beliefs".

What I do want is for people to stop peddling non-scientific nonsense based on scaremongering, anecdote and vague conjecture. If you don't understand, that's okay.

Ophelia, I'm dreadfully sorry about your mother, I hadn't read your second post.

If you were rather I were pretentious and wrote "one should..." . I understand perfectly well, thank you - aspartame has no nutritional value, I don't like its taste, and regardless of what scientists think, enough people believe it gives them headaches or upsets their stomachs to put me off buying food and drink containing such a nutritionally pointless and unnecessary ingredient. I don't need to believe the scare stories to think it's a pile of crap that has no place sneaking it's way into more and more foodstuffs...

Its.. Stupid auto correct.

Dino yoir head must be getting sore from beating it against the wall. Would you like some nice homeopathic remedy for it? Some Chinese herbs? Or perhaps I could massage your reflexology points for you?

I'm perfectly happy with well labelled choice, though.

I bet Dino is a Sagittarius

Ghosty

Shall we make you a nice detox juice perhaps?

make sure you drink it on some ley lines