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Bloody aspartame poisoning...

296 replies

FoofooLeSnoo · 11/01/2016 14:46

Is not real and has been disproved time and time again. Aibu to get cross every time someone says its toxic blah blah blah! There is one group of people who should avoid it if they have a certain rare condition otherwise it's completely safe.
Rant over!

OP posts:
Scholes34 · 11/01/2016 18:41

I also have a cow butter dish and no problems spreading butter. Aspartame tastes horrible, so why would you want to drink anything with it in in the first plac? Non-diet drinks in Sainsbury's don't have artificial sweeteners.

MrsMook · 11/01/2016 18:48

I don't like aspartame, it leaves a foul taste in my mouth for hours and makes me horribly thirsty. It doesn't like me and gives me thumping headaches. I'd rather get a dehydration headache as it's easier to shift.

Is it toxic? Probably not, but it offers little health benefit and cons people into thinking they're making healthier choices than they are, and is a very dubious tool in an obesengenic world.

I don't like the way that it and other sweetners are getting harder to avoid. The last time I bought Vimto, the recipe had changed and put something in that tastes like soap water.

I like an occasional red label coke. I know it's a dose of empty calories and no good for my pancreas. But when I have a drink of it, I'm not kidding myself that I'm giving myself a health tonic. For some reason, there seems to be more people drinking large quanities of the diet versions. They're low calorie, so what's the harm? Except they seem to be very tough to give up with rather unpleasant side effects. More so than from coffee or tea. (Personal observations there!)

The rise of sweeteners is not stemming rises in obesity and diabetes. They disagree with many people. They haven't been tried over a lifetime yet. They have little health benefit even if they are not causing harm to most people.

I prefer to avoid them. My children come across them (e.g.at parties), and I won't ban them if they're not reacting to them. But where reasonable, I do label check to minimise our consumption.

Jux · 11/01/2016 18:50

I just drink tea, endlessly. No sugar.

I like the Dihydrogen Monoxide link Grin

roundaboutthetown · 11/01/2016 18:55

I bet broccoli isn't carcinogenic in large doses. Grin

Jux · 11/01/2016 18:56

I bet if you ate the same volume of broccoli as that of Kilimajaro it would be.

Jux · 11/01/2016 18:57

Kilimanjaro

lostinmiddlemarch · 11/01/2016 18:58

I just scrolled down looking for the part where you link to the scientific evidence, OP.

But you never did Hmm

NiNoKuni · 11/01/2016 18:58

Not carcinogenic, maybe, but can give you hypothyroidism and terrible teeth when juiced, apparently!

Can't eat nuffin no more. Grin

MuddlingMackem · 11/01/2016 19:00

bettyberry

You could also try vimto squash - both sugar and sugar free versions.

Jw35 · 11/01/2016 19:03

My baby's music group leader has had trouble with her joints. (Like stiff ankles) The doctor told asked her if she drank diet drinks and she said she drank up to 5 cans of diet coke a day. He told her to cut it out..she felt better in days!

I heard aspartame hasn't been around long enough to know it's safe.

I don't like artificial sweeteners. I can't imagine anything artificial Is going to do you any good. I'm in the full sugar camp too. I tend not to bother with squash though. What's wrong with water!

roundaboutthetown · 11/01/2016 19:04

Jux - if you tried to eat that much broccoli, you'd die of some dreadful stomach complaint long before any cancer got you! Grin

YouthHostellingWithChrisEubank · 11/01/2016 19:07

"I heard aspartame hasn't been around long enough to know it's safe."

It's "been around" for at least four decades, and is one of the most studied foodstuffs in the world.

Quietattheback · 11/01/2016 19:11

I can't tolerate the stuff, it gives me migraines but I don't think it is out and out poison. That said, it's only added to shitty food/drink to make it taste a bit less shitty and probably best avoided, I can't see as there's any actual 'benifit' from it (I'm not standing in judgement of those who do ingest it, I make plenty of crap food choices myself).

TheFallenMadonna · 11/01/2016 19:16

We were all told last week (again!) that alcohol is linked to cancer. I still enjoy the odd glass of wine (or several...)

roundaboutthetown · 11/01/2016 19:17

The advantage of sugar is that we know what's particularly wrong with it! We also know it has been around for considerably longer than the current diabetes and obesity epidemic. Tbh, I'm a bit bored with scientific advice, what with advice on what makes a healthy diet changing every few years, anyway. One minute fat is bad for you, then it isn't fat that's the real problem; then too many eggs are bad for you, then you can eat far more eggs than they thought; then butter is bad for you and margarine is good, then it's the other way round; then some alcohol may have moderate health benefits, then any alcohol is bad for you... Why should I trust scientific advice on vile tasting aspartame, considering? I would rather follow the advice of my tastebuds on whether or not it's any good for me. Grin

JessicasRabbit · 11/01/2016 19:27

My tastebuds tell me to eat lots and lots of cheese, fatty red meat and fried foods. I don't think my tastebuds talk to my arteries.

StellaAlpina · 11/01/2016 19:32

Good point roundabouthetown.I prefer sugar to aspartame for that reason. We know a lot more about the positives/negatives of sugar than we do about aspartame.

Same thing with butter vs Margarine.

I like the motto of 'would my grandmother recognise this as food'

bettyberry · 11/01/2016 19:35

MuddlingMackem that's a bugger! haven't had it for ages. I didn't know they changed the recipe. I was angry when Dr Pepper changed their recipe too. They cut the sugar and added sweeteners.

I guess this year I'll be making more cordials at home then!

shebird · 11/01/2016 19:35

Fructose corn syrup is the devils work. It's worse than sugar as our liver cannot process it at all. It is in so many foods as a cheap substitute for sugar. The use of this in food and drinks correlates directly with the rise in obesity and diabetes.

Pipistrella · 11/01/2016 19:35

Oh thank you very much for the ideas - not sure I feel secure in my capacity to change the water regularly in a French butter dish, though - ! how long can you keep it for in a normal one?

I have tried leaving it out before and it just seems to go a bit funny after a week or so.

ItchyArmpits · 11/01/2016 19:39

That spurious correlations website is a joy to behold. Many thanks Father

tobysmum77 · 11/01/2016 19:40

Brilliant thread. Personally I prefer wine to diet coke. However, I believe that too much wine is bad for me so I drink some tea and a couple of cans of fizzy drinks every day. Living in water is a step too far.

roundaboutthetown · 11/01/2016 19:40

My tastebuds have served me very well, thank you very much. They tell me when food tastes rancid or aspartamey. If you crave lots of fatty foods all the time, that isn't the fault of your tastebuds, that's just greed. Grin Cheese and fatty red meats are not bad for you in moderation.

bettyberry · 11/01/2016 19:41

pip I had mine before the damn child broke it next to the kettle so made it a habit to change it in the am when filling the kettle for my cuppa. It defo lasts longer in the french ones but I've found the same as you with the regular ones. The regular ones are supposed to be kept in a larder though and we used to eat and cook with a lot more butter so I guess it rarely lasted a week!

tobysmum77 · 11/01/2016 19:41

Living on water Shock

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