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Yodel delivery driver opened my front door..

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harboromummy · 30/12/2015 13:44

This is the second time in two weeks! Same guy!

I went to go into the hall way to go upstairs and the delivery man literally came up to the door, didn't knock, opened my front door and went to put the parcel on the stairs!! He about pooed himself when he saw me then asked me to sign the thing.

The first time I heard the front door go went to check and he had done it then too!!

😡😡

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Kaytee1987 · 30/12/2015 15:06

PrettyBrightFireflies I'm not disagreeing but I will take my chances having never been broken into and don't think any of my neighbours have either. There's a risk in nearly everything you do, suits me to have the door unlocked most of the time.

sinber · 30/12/2015 15:09

Is this a regional thing? Relations in Durham leave doors open, but here in the SE I've never witnessed it, in fact I've never seen a front door you could open from the outside round these parts.

I was burgled, or had a "walk in theft" as the police called it, during the day when we were all at home. They used the French windows to the garden, and even though it was a small open plan house, even the kids didn't see them.

BackInTheRealWorld · 30/12/2015 15:09

I leave a key in the lock on the outside sometimes, if my kid is out with neighbours kids and likely to be coming in and out every 5 minutes.

Kaytee1987 · 30/12/2015 15:11

Sinber might be a regional thing, people might be more likely to leave their doors unlocked if they feel safer where they live. Nor sure there's probably a survey somewhere online though

StealthPolarBear · 30/12/2015 15:14

I'm in durham and leave doors unlocked. Not saying where :)
But no one is explaining why he would have had to leave the parcel in the rain or take it away again. That all makes no sense.

knobblyknee · 30/12/2015 15:17

If your door is unlocked your household contents insurance is not valid...get a chain at least, and complain to Yodel.

Dipankrispaneven · 30/12/2015 15:17

Nothing really worth nicking but it doesn't say in our insurance policy you must keep the front door locked when in.

I'm prepared to bet that it does say something to the effect that you must take reasonable precautions. Leaving your door unlocked isn't a reasonable precaution.

Blanche, the fact that you live in an old house doesn't make everything that postdates it a modern invention. By that criterion, if you live in a 16th century house the steam engine and lighting by anything other than candles and oil lanterns would be modern. Yet electric lighting is close to universal and generally acknowledged to be better than candles or even gas lighting. By the same token, Yale locks aren't newfangled and unreliable means of securing houses.

OurBlanche · 30/12/2015 15:23

Get a sense of humour, Dipank 150 is years is relatively new to the world.

It's British sense of humour thing, based on the "time of legal memory" 3rd September 1189... by law

Everything you listed is within legal memory!

And my other point was that bog standard Yale locks are not acceptable security measures in many homes (flats being one exception).

5madthings · 30/12/2015 15:25

knobbly that's not true depending on the policy as others have said.

I am in Norwich, twenty min walk to city centre, though I still think of Norwich itself as a town tbh. We were probably more careful pre kids when we lived in student area.

Come summer time we often have the front door open as well as unlocked as kids are playing in front garden. The baby will sleep in front garden in pram. But we are.not on a street right by road etc with lots of traffic. We are in a cul De sac and our front driveway is long enough for two cars and is fenced and gated, so you have to come off the street into the cul De sac then into the front garden and I always see people before they get to the door. And would hear the door opening.

It would be a bit wierd for me to leave baby to sleep in pram by front door only to shut and lock the door... I leave door open or at least a windows open so I can hear the baby. I take it all you door locking people wouldn't leave baby to sleep by front door?

If I lived in say the terraced properties in our area where front door literally opens onto the street then yes I would be locking the door.

thatwouldbeanecumenicalmatter · 30/12/2015 15:26

Can I just say as a word of warning to PPs who say they don't lock their door when they're in (I'm assuming they're assuming they'd hear someone come in) - we got burgled/walk-in twice at my old work place with at least half a dozen people in the building - my office is actually next to the front door. We heard nothing.

We figured out they had been reaching their arm through the letterbox reached up and opened the sneck lock from the inside and let themselves in. Please check your front doors - if this is possible get a metal guard screwed into the door.

witsender · 30/12/2015 15:27

Our front door is always unlocked when we are in, is that unusual? Normally left unlocked when I just nip out to shop or school. Back door open all day really for the dog, car never locked!

ExConstance · 30/12/2015 15:28

I live in the South West. My door stays unlocked from 7am until we go to bed, it would feel very odd to me to lock it.

Believeitornot · 30/12/2015 15:31

Am at the unlocked doors. I have never lived in a house which need a key to lock the door. What about if you had young children?

rosebiggs · 30/12/2015 15:33

I've had this a few times. We don't have a porch and sometimes delivery drivers open the door accidentally if it's unlocked.
Don't complain about the poor guy - just lock your door!

OurBlanche · 30/12/2015 15:35

I think some of us live in a world many others would call 'naive'

Crime here is reasonably low but house burglaries do occur. I just don't feel threatened in my own home and would find it weird to lock the front door whenever I walked back in through it!

Kaytee1987 · 30/12/2015 15:36

5madthings - I think our gates and long drive way probably make me feel safer too.

thatwouldbeanecumenicalmatter - I wouldn't hear someone come in front door if I'm at the back of the house and if at the front of the house wouldn't hear someone come in back either. Just assume no one would come in, probably too trusting

We're both out most of the day anyway so it only really applies to weekends if we're around the house. In the summer we're even less secure as front door unlocked and we're likely sitting at the back of the garden by summer I mean one day a year.

Pipbin · 30/12/2015 15:42

Something that has been around for 170 years isn't a "relatively new invention". And leaving our house unlocked, even when someone is at home, is what would invalidate our home insurance.

Well it is when your house is 400 years old and your door is a similar vintage.

So some people have their doors locked at all times do they? Even on a nice day when the children are playing in the garden?

5madthings · 30/12/2015 15:44

I would hear someone open.the door and do, even if upstairs. It's not a big house.

Re kids and doors when madthings were little I would shut the door from porch into house, they weren't tall enough to open it.

StealthPolarBear · 30/12/2015 15:44

Our children are playing in the street usually. We'd have to make them knock when they wanted to be back in :)

SeamstressfromTreacleMineRoad · 30/12/2015 15:45

Another one here gobsmacked at the parallel universe that is MN

I would no more not lock my door at all times than leave all the windows wide open while I popped out to do the shopping...and I live in a low-crime area..! It's just automatic to come in and lock the door behind me.

Years ago, when I still worked, I came home one night to find that I'd not locked the front door when I went out that morning; I'm here alone, and I can assure you that going all over the house, checking that nothing had been stolen - and more importantly, that no-one was hiding anywhere - was not a pleasant experience. After that, I always left the front door open while I defrosted the car etc, so that if I jumped in to set off for work, I was facing an open door, not one that was closed but unlocked.

Likewise, I really don't fancy being in the kitchen cooking while someone is coming in my front door and going upstairs (two doors between me and them - I wouldn't hear a thing... )

StealthPolarBear · 30/12/2015 15:46

And given that a significant proportion of mners don't answer thei'r own front door, that would be difficult.
actually that might explain the parcels in the rain /taking it back again comments too

mum11970 · 30/12/2015 15:46

My front door is very rarely locked if there is someone in. It would drive everyone daft if they had to keep locking and unlocking the door. I do have 4 dogs on the other side of it though, so no one who doesn't know us well would just walk in.

BoulevardOfBrokenSleep · 30/12/2015 15:46

Yes, pipbin, I always lock the front door (momentary brain farts excepted) because the kids play in the enclosed rear garden.

On a cost/benefit analysis, I can't see what you gain by leaving the door unlocked, whereas you risk losing a lot.

Hulababy · 30/12/2015 15:47

I live in a very low crime area; city outskirts, cul de sac, all aspects of crime low when you check the postcode.

However, we lock doors front and back. If not on ground floor there is no way we'd hear someone walk in and have enough time to get down and stop them walking out with something or prevent them entering the house.

Maybe crime is lower here as most people lock their doors and have alarms etc. Who know???

But in not taking the risk.

Walk in burglaries do happen; they're not rare things. Walk in burglaries to grab car keys and then driving off with your car is a biggie.

Why would you take the risk? Especially in the case of the OP where she is aware that people can enter the house with your her realising.

Kaytee1987 · 30/12/2015 15:47

It's funny how different people are. I would happily leave my windows open while popping out on the odd chance it's warm enough to warrant it.

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