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Yodel delivery driver opened my front door..

333 replies

harboromummy · 30/12/2015 13:44

This is the second time in two weeks! Same guy!

I went to go into the hall way to go upstairs and the delivery man literally came up to the door, didn't knock, opened my front door and went to put the parcel on the stairs!! He about pooed himself when he saw me then asked me to sign the thing.

The first time I heard the front door go went to check and he had done it then too!!

😡😡

OP posts:
Pseudonym99 · 30/12/2015 14:49

If you don't want people coming in uninvited, keep the door locked. It's what the lock is for. An unlocked door implies your consent that someone with a legitimate reason can enter. Or allows someone without a legitimate reason to enter.

lizzywig · 30/12/2015 14:49
  • left with it
PrettyBrightFireflies · 30/12/2015 14:51

girlguide yes, it does invalidate your insurance.
Yes, walk in burglaries are incredibly common in all areas even low crime ones - and it is believed by police that they are under reported as so many people attribute the theft of a handbag, wallet or phone from their hall table as being "lost" so never report it as a burglary.

There are burglars who specialise in 'walk ins' - targeting houses near footpaths or on the corner plot. They can be repeatedly targeted too - like the Op, people don't seem to change their habits and lock their doors even when they know someone has walked in uninvited.

5madthings · 30/12/2015 14:52

Our front porch is full of wellies, scooters, sometimes a pushchair, bike hats on shelves, kids coats on kid height hooks and baskets with hats, gloves etc. Nothing really worth nicking but it doesn't say in our insurance policy you must keep the front door locked when in. What about Windows, ours are locked automatically when shut but quite common for them to be open in summer along with the front and back doors on a really hot day. The kids often be in and out playing in front garden and cul De sac, so door stays open so I can hear them and call out to them if necessary or in the past there was often a sleeping baby in pram in front garden, there will be again come April once madthing6 arrives.

We would see anyone coming up to the front door anyway as living room and kitchen etc lookout onto the front driveway, it's two car length, fenced and gated. Back door only accessible if someone climbs through various gardens with 6ft fences.

BackInTheRealWorld · 30/12/2015 14:52

I'd have no problem with it at all. Shame so many of you would complain, makes it less likely to happen for me.

Kaytee1987 · 30/12/2015 14:52

PrettyBrightFireflies - yes it makes it easier but it also doesn't mean the delivery driver is right in opening the door Hmm
I doubt most of my neighbours lock their doors but I wouldnt dream of trying their handles.

notenoughbottle · 30/12/2015 14:53

This happened to me a few months back but with a Chinese delivery driver. Didn't knock or anything just opened the door and walked straight in! I asked him if he normally walked into people's houses like that...

Gruntfuttock · 30/12/2015 14:53

"We don't lock the door if we are in, it's a pain running round finding the keys if somebody does knock at the door."

We lock the front door when we're in but leave the keys in the door. They cannot be reached from outside as the letterbox is somewhere else. I don't know why you would assume that locking the front door when your in = "running round finding the keys" if anybody rings the bell.

DoesntLeftoverTurkeySoupDragOn · 30/12/2015 14:54

Why would you lock it when you're awake and in the house?

A friend of mine had her handbag stolen from the kitchen when she was awake and in the house. They simply opened the side door.

goodnightdarthvader1 · 30/12/2015 14:54

This thread is made up of a large number of idiots or trolls.

Whether your door is locked or unlocked, it doesn't give any delivery driver the right to open your door, or even try your door handle. The universal code for "I need your attention / have something to deliver / wish to enter your property" is to ... wait for it ... MOTHERFUCKING KNOCK (or ring the door bell). The only exception to this is a business property. OP, YANBU.

On a related note, Yodel are fucking awful. I never use them if I can help it.

pieceofpurplesky · 30/12/2015 14:55

There is much such place as a crime free area. I live in a place with very low crime rates but that didn't stop someone opening my friends door, nicking the car keys and taking her car. Or the bike thefts before Christmas ...

DoesntLeftoverTurkeySoupDragOn · 30/12/2015 14:55

This thread is made up of a large number of idiots or trolls.

And at least one incredibly thick and rude person.

PrettyBrightFireflies · 30/12/2015 14:56

I've never said that the delivery driver is right kaytee - just that there are lots of people in the world who don't do "the right thing" and locking your front door is a way of preventing them from doing something you don't welcome.

Out of interest, why do people lock their doors at night but not during the day?

Gruntfuttock · 30/12/2015 14:56

As a PP mentioned, would you be able to claim on your insurance if someone entered through an unlocked door and stole something?

PrettyBrightFireflies · 30/12/2015 14:58

grunt having dealt with hundreds of cases I can assure you that no, you would not be able to claim on a standard household policy.

Kaytee1987 · 30/12/2015 14:58

My home insurance states something along the lines of securing the building when not on the premises (can't remember wording will have to dig out policy)
My walks with dog in the woods have probably been quite risky as not insured in that instance Grin

5madthings · 30/12/2015 14:59

If I was the only person in the house and was going to have a bath, shower or a sleep (which I will once baby arrives and bigger kids are at school) then I will shut the door from porch into house which automatically locks, would leave the front porch door shut but unlocked incase of deliveries or other madthings returning home. but generally with family of seven it's unusual for their to be just one person in the house, if it's me and younger ones and I needed to be upstairs I would shut the door into house to stop the littler ones going out without me knowing. It really just depends on what we are doing but quite normal for front door not to be locked once the first person has gone out in the morning.

OurBlanche · 30/12/2015 15:00

Something that has been around for 170 years isn't a "relatively new invention". It is if your house and its surrounds are hundreds of years older Smile

And leaving our house unlocked, even when someone is at home, is what would invalidate our home insurance Not all insurance though. Mine has no such clause, unless the house is unoccupied. I have the policy in front of me...

Katedotness1963 · 30/12/2015 15:00

I guess it depends where you live. When I live at home (small town north of Scotland) I never lock the door when I'm home during the day, I usually remember to lock up at night. It's normal for delivery people to open the door and pop the stuff inside. The only time it's been a problem was when I was in a house with a downstairs shower and was walking out of the room, naked, when the postie opened the front door...

Kaytee1987 · 30/12/2015 15:00

I'm assuming people lock doors at night because they're sleeping and it's dark so people can sneak in easier without being seen... i know a few people who don't always lock their doors at night.

PrettyBrightFireflies · 30/12/2015 15:01

blanche have you ever tried to claim for a walk in burglary?
I dealt with many victims who discovered the devil is in the small print and they weren't insured because there was no forced entry.

PrettyBrightFireflies · 30/12/2015 15:03

kaytee But most burglaries of occupied homes occur during the day..... It's much safer to leave your home unlocked at night!

cardoon · 30/12/2015 15:03

I'm with neeps - this thread is an eye-opener to me

Kaytee1987 · 30/12/2015 15:04

Agreed OurBlanche our house doesn't have a yale, front door into porch is a modernish looking lock obviously fitted after the house was built but not a yale. Inner door is a mortice (?) Lock. I've no interest in fitting a yale either.

OurBlanche · 30/12/2015 15:05

Yes, once, many, many moons ago. MILs front room was rifled whilst she was in the kitchen, and she was paid out no problem.

I will probably ask when I renew, but I doubt that would change how I live. When I am in any door that gets unlocked stays unlocked until I go to bed, or it gets dark and I remember to lock it. That's normal for me and many of my neighbours.

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