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To tell a child on train to chew with their mouth closed?

146 replies

Vanderwaals · 17/12/2015 07:18

(Inspired by another thread)
Yes I know there are far more annoying occurrences on train.
But yesterday, on the way home from work, there was a child (age 10ish) sat behind me on the train eating crisps and munching very loudly with their mouth open. He was sat next to his mother (I presume) who said nothing.
Would I be unreasonable to tell them to chew with his mouth closed?
Btw I genuinely have misophonia and noises like that make me rage/want to cry

OP posts:
SauvignonBlanche · 17/12/2015 18:29

I agree with Sirzy, you know how your disability affects you, senpai, please do assume that all people with a particular disability are the same.

rosebiggs · 17/12/2015 18:29

'Because BEFORE they are in meltdown mode, YES THEY CAN. BEFORE they get UPSET. I'm not asking them to function through a meltdown. '

A person with ASD might not be able to think ahead in the way that you can to avoid the meltdown.

Dawndonnaagain · 17/12/2015 18:29

OH good grief, Senpai. That's the way it works for you. Some meltdowns can be instantaneous, like your lightswitch. It is different for others. Please, please listen to what others with experience are saying.

Senpai · 17/12/2015 18:30

I agree with Sirzy, you know how your disability affects you, senpai, please do assume that all people with a particular disability are the same.

Ok, but it's still not ok to scream at someone.

rosebiggs · 17/12/2015 18:31

'It's learning to identify when they are stressed and walking off to get a coffee or decompress another way.'

That's great if you can do that - but if you don't recognise your own emotions then that's going to be very difficult.

Dawndonnaagain · 17/12/2015 18:32

Ok, but it's still not ok to scream at someone.
Nobody has said it is, only that it may happen. If a person is in a meltdown situation they may be unaware that they are screaming, they will certainly be unaware of the effect they are having on others, not their fault.

fanjoforthemammaries7850 · 17/12/2015 18:34

My daughter responds differently to situations on different days.

Senpai · 17/12/2015 18:34

If a person is in a meltdown situation they may be unaware that they are screaming, they will certainly be unaware of the effect they are having on others, not their fault.

Yes, I have been there.

But if it's not ok to scream at someone, then surely you expect not to be screamed at, and to do that you need to expect people not to do it.

fanjoforthemammaries7850 · 17/12/2015 18:34

Hard to predict what would upset her.

Dawndonnaagain · 17/12/2015 18:39

But if it's not ok to scream at someone, then surely you expect not to be screamed at, and to do that you need to expect people not to do it.
No, if someone screams at me I try to work out what is going on. If I'm in a situation where there are people with ASCs around me, I am aware that they may be frightened and can't help it. Perhaps you too could do others the courtesy, when in public, of not judging. Sometimes, just sitting on the floor next to a person having a meltdown is a help, or asking the carer if there is anything they would like you to do to help. These are the kind things to do.

EvaJacobs1 · 17/12/2015 18:46

Yes, yabu. If it were my 10 year old who you told to shut up, then believe me I'd tell you exactly were to go!

honkinghaddock · 17/12/2015 18:47

Some people with autism do have instant meltdowns. Some people with autism will never learn to walk away to prevent a meltdown.

Gileswithachainsaw · 17/12/2015 18:53

No, if someone screams at me I try to work out what is going on. If I'm in a situation where there are people with ASCs around me, I am aware that they may be frightened and can't help it. Perhaps you too could do others the courtesy

and what if your not.

I've been shouted at, threatened, had furniture thrown around, sworn at etc

am.i.to asume.all these people have autism or do I call the police or ask them.to leave.

Gileswithachainsaw · 17/12/2015 18:53

Not in a situation where I'm. aware of people witg ASD I mean

Dawndonnaagain · 17/12/2015 19:01

Giles In your situation, you have to do what you think is best (and safest) at the time. I am sure however, you'd be able to tell when somebody is just being plain rude, rather than having a meltdown, there is a difference.

Gileswithachainsaw · 17/12/2015 19:03

usually it's down to too much weed.... or alcohol.

going by the smell.

and I don't care what's wrong with ya when you make lewd comments and invite me into the toilets sorry.. .

I don't think I've been unfair to anyone who has an actual problem

Dawndonnaagain · 17/12/2015 19:07

and I don't care what's wrong with ya when you make lewd comments and invite me into the toilets sorry.. .
Eww!

Gileswithachainsaw · 17/12/2015 20:00

as I said most people are just rude or disgusting because they are rude and disgusting.

over the years the majority of dealings with people who had had obvious problems have been on the more pleasant side.

the only police dealing has been due to fear of a vulnerable persons safety as opposed to their behaviour

Dawndonnaagain · 17/12/2015 20:05

the only police dealing has been due to fear of a vulnerable persons safety as opposed to their behaviour
That's very reassuring, and on behalf of my children (21 and 19 year old twins) Thank you. Flowers

Gileswithachainsaw · 17/12/2015 20:07
Smile

WineWine

thelouise · 17/12/2015 20:41

"Because BEFORE they are in meltdown mode, YES THEY CAN. BEFORE they get UPSET. I'm not asking them to function through a meltdown."

I'm pleased that you have the cognitive and emotional ability to be able to recognise this and walk away. Many people are unable to walk away from a difficult situation.

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