To think nobody is offended and people are stupid

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Sorry, FB one but I've just seen two different people share a nativity scene on FB with a message saying 'apparently FB doesn't like this picture because some people are offended - TOUGH, Pls share'

Aggghhhhh nobody is offended you morons it's utter nonsense, might just delete them I never speak to them anyway but this crap wheedles out the idiots

Why do you find it difficult to accept the fact that 59% of Britons identify as Christian? The way you post makes you sound phobic about the fact. It runs through everything you say and I can't understand why you have all this love for sikhs and Muslims and twig-worshippers but despise our nation's main religion so much. Why?

I have to say that it's only on mumsnet that I've heard of Muslim people enthusiastically embracing Christmas..........

No reason why they shouldn't of course- but a "Happy Christmas" and a card is all I've ever experienced.

"Why do you find it difficult to accept the fact that 59% of Britons identify as Christian?

Because it's not true. And even if it were true, it's not exactly a thumping majority, is it?

The way you post makes you sound phobic about the fact. It runs through everything you say and I can't understand why you have all this love for sikhs and Muslims and twig-worshippers but despise our nation's main religion so much. Why?

I am very puzzled about where you get this idea that there is "all this love" for other religions. I think you must have made it up because nobody has said anything like that..

Roger. Whether you like it or not, the number of people who self-identify as Christians has been in decline for a while, principally as a result of the UK becoming a more secular society. 59% or 48%, both are significantly lower than the figure 30 or so years ago. Part of me feels sad about this, and part of me feels happy in that people simply feel more able to be open about what they do or don't believe. In the days when 80% professed to be Christian, a very high proportion of those would have been nominal adherents only.

PC grinch steals Auckland Christmas.

And not a Muslim in sight.

Claire who?

I didn't realise she had a last name!

That looks like a good listen .

Me, I'm just bemused by the whole thing, because Christmas was thoroughly dechristianised some time back. Santa is everywhere, cribs, nativity sets and angels aren't to be seen at all. Most people round here won't encounter any overtly religious references except in the Queen's Speech. All that's left is a word that starts with c***.

There's really no comparison with Eid and Diwali which, as far as I know, are festivals that explicitly retain all their religious imagery.

I don't think the change is for the better. During my childhood, Christmas had lots of nice rich imagery and symbolism, tuneful carols in elegant churches and so on. Now it's all plastic tat and Ah-saw-mommy-kissing-Santa-Claus. It's very dull by comparison, and certainly shows no evidence of Christmas returning to its "true" Pagan roots, whatever that means. Actually it would be preferable if someone invented a pagan alternative, perhaps involving ritual dancing and burning stuff.

Someone posted that bollocks on Facebook and a genius responded with a photo of a Mecca Bingo branch saying, "Yes, and look, they're taking over the high street too!"

I'm surprised Mecca haven't been told to change their name.

I'm not surprised Mecca havent been told to change their name, because its like the whole FB thing. No one is offended. Thats the point.

No it isn't. The point is that a bunch of do-gooders act on the assumption that people are offended.

Haha do you not realise the cost of quorn sausages compared to cheap 32% pork and beef sausages that schools serve? Fuck that for the costings.

Although in areas where there are higher percentages of dc that are Muslim the meat is halal in schools or all veggie menus.

I won't link it here, but there was a classic (ie. vile) article in the Daily.Mail today about Syrian refugees in Bute in Scotland. It had everything to complete a DM bingo card:

All the refugees have 'the latest phones'
Someone reported a refugee being abusive to her as she walked past.
A woman claimed that she was wearing a sleeveless t shirt (an odd choice in Scotland in the winter but hey ho) and got shouted at by a Syrian woman to cover her shoulders.
When the reporter approached a group of 'chain smoking' refugees, she was told 'we Syrian, we only speak Arabic'

And......

A woman who lives next door to one of the families was told she must only put up 'minimal Xmas decorations' so as not to offend her neighbours! Apparently she 'mischeviosly' put up an 'extra special display'.

What total and utter arsebollocks.

"That looks like a good listen"

Clare in the Community is extremely good, very, very funny. I have only listened to a few episodes but it is really worth listening to for a good laugh. Of course it is so funny because it is so true. The politically correct BBC puts on a good humorous programme about political correctness, just like the excellent W1A.

They can laugh at it, but the sad thing is, it is true.

I just found out that Clare in the Community is a comic strip in the politically correct Guardian that was adapted for radio. Again that is probably why it is so funny, as a lot of Guardian types know their onions when it comes to political correctness.

'I suspect Clare is exactly the kind of person who looks for offence on behalf of other people, is desperate to be seen as unoffensive and aware of other people and would say Happy Holidays'

The thing is that Clare works for the state, doesn't she, she is a manager for the state in social services, I think. She is not just any person trying not to offend.

The key thing in all of this about Christmas and political correctness is the state and its officials, functionaries and flunkies. It has nothing to do with Muslims or any other religion. No one cares apart from the politically correct busybodies and state flunkies.

All the stuff about Winterval or even banning of Santa in a Brooklyn elementary school is to do with politically correct left wing state council staff or state teaching staff trying to jump through what they perceive to be what the politically correct state wants.

YANBU. No one is offended. Had this discussion with someone at work about how kids can't sing "bah bah black sheep anymore" and have to sing "rainbow sheep" because according to her it offends black people..no. It's OTT PC white people that are the issue

'Today at Liverpool street station an elderly lady was holding a charity collection, I went to pop some money in the collection tin and she faltered wishing me a merry Christmas, I laughed wished her a merry Christmas and carried on my journey.
It actually saddens me to think someone would falter in wishing me well in case it causes me offense. It's so crazy.'

As fuzzywuzzy said, it is "crazy" what has happened, where people have become fearful as they try to obey the politically correct state imposed codes.

'It's OTT PC white people that are the issue'

The sad thing is they are people exactly like Clare in the Community. They only do it because they want to do good and conform to what they don't realise is the state's codes. Slowly, slowly it spreads as people become more fearful to wish others a merry christmas. Tragic, but that is how our society is going.