should people who work with kids....

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Associate with someone who is a suspected paedo? Have NC for this but I am interested in what others think, I am absolutely being genuine.
The person in question works with kids, and has kids. She associates with someone who has been arrested on several occasions and due to lack of solid evidence cases have been dropped eventually. However SS had to be informed and they did their research and deemed the person a risk to kids, and basically said they believed he was very likely a paedophile. The person who works with kids was fully informed of this and warned that her children should not be left alone with her 'friend'. Bearing in mind she only associates with said 'paedophile' to piss off an ex partner and also because I think she believes there will be a hefty payout for her in a will eventually.
If this person was working with your child/children, or was your friend and you were at their house and your child possibly around the risky offender how would react? AIBU to think that she's a fucking disgrace and if people found out they would go bat shit?

The OPs issue has nothing to do with Disqualification by Association and is clearly not relevant in this case.

What we have is a person in a position of trust with children who herself is , I think , being potentially groomed by this male if the OPs info is correct. Therefore is the woman deemed suitable to be in a position of trust and able to be seen by a reasonable person to safeguard the children she has care of.

Even if the OP doesn't have the full facts she is concerned enough about the situation therefore she must report her concerns to the appropriate authorities so that THEY make in necessary assessment of risk with the info they hold.

SS said my concerns were extremely valid, just in case anyone thinks I was exaggerating. And thanks so much to people for their reassurance, I know it's silly of me to be so worried about kids that aren't even related to me or I even know really but I was. Because a child in the grasp of a paedophile is just the most horrifying thing I can imagine

hope you are passing on this info , op. He is not hanging out with this woman for her company.

Only read about half this thread.

OP it all sounds, very... well I'm torn between you making this up or you not understanding how the CPS/court/police work.

If there have been charges then they are a matter of public record.

Barristers only become involved when things are going to trial, which if the CPS are 'splitting hairs' isn't the case.

How do you know all this '100%' when it appears to have come from a friend of a friend, and then you 'know' she made anonymous calls - how? Did she tell you?

Sorry OP, I hope this is just you wording things badly, and you do sound quite flustered but the whole thing.

I guess what I'm saying is, I can see the other side of this and it really isn't always as black and white as people think.

^^ this.

A couple of month ago a teacher was posting on here, her teenage son was about to go to court for hitting another teenager and she was hoping she wouldn't lose her job because of the 'association' rules.

Okay. 'Friend of a friend' was simply to avoid stating who I actually am. However social services have now been involved and are dealing with it. and I know charges are public record but they were dropped before it got to trial. The cases were adjourned and discussed in court several times. I know actual facts and I was simply asking how people would feel if they were around this woman/she was teaching their kids etc and lying about the situation. Which she has. To people who she doesn't realise I am associated with. And I have been unable to put them straight because it is well, extremely complicated and this woman has form for making false allegations to the police.

Although if I was going to make up something like this I really don't see why I'd take to MN to do it amongst strangers. It's a very sensitive hard hitting subject for many

I just realised how that looked about the people she has lied to. They're her friends - who are associates of mine. It is all very Chinese whispers but I really want to tell all the people who know this man the truth. Because I've heard that a lot of them speak very highly of the couple. And it's bullshit that she can lie to them so much when they're supposed to be her friends. Am I breaking any laws if I do tell them what I know? And specify that he isn't convicted etc?

Get advice from the police if you wd be breaking any laws and at the same time tell them what is concerning you re this man associating with a teacher.

I'm thinking of doing that. Because I feel so strongly about it. If it were one of my friends and my kids were around a pervert and I wasn't aware I would be so angry and upset

However social services have now been involved and are dealing with it

This is a good outcome.

Am I breaking any laws if I do tell them what I know? And specify that he isn't convicted etc?

Don't put yourself at risk. You know the truth, but according to your earlier posts they have good standing in the community? Don't risk becoming the slanderous crazy lady... Leave it to other people who also know the truth and who have the resources to deal with the issue properly.

That's what I mean - isn't slanderous behaviour technically telling lies? I wouldn't be telling any lies and could prove what I said

But at the end of the day he hasn't actually been convicted of anything, just suspected. Its things like this which get innocent people beaten up or worse killed.

How do you know someone isn't trying to spread rumors about him which aren't really true?

But at the end of the day he hasn't actually been convicted of anything, just suspected. Its things like this which get innocent people beaten up or worse killed.

How do you know someone isn't trying to spread rumors about him which aren't really true?

But at the end of the day he hasn't actually been convicted of anything, just suspected. Its things like this which get innocent people beaten up or worse killed.

How do you know someone isn't trying to spread rumors about him which aren't really true?

There have been a few tragic situations where a person has been persecuted by neighbours, just for not looking or behaving as "normal", rather than for concrete acts.

However, that's very different to what the OP has stated (unless you think she is lying):
. Official charges (plural) brought against this man, that are on public record
. Cases (plural & several times) brought to court, discussed, adjourned, then dropped
. SS stating her concerns about him were valid

An innocent person certainly can be very unlucky, be charged and brought to court for a criminal offence - once.
If this happens to them more than once, it is reasonable to wonder why.

With all criminal cases, being wealthy enables you to pay expert barristers to work as many hours as it takes to get you off.
So, not the Legal Aid service that the average defendant will get.

Considering some publicised cases over the last few years, money and influence does sometimes help to avoid conviction and punishment, for sexual offences in particular.

isn't slanderous behaviour technically telling lies? I wouldn't be telling any lies and could prove what I said

Apologies, I didn't mean to say you would be taken to court for slander, I meant that in the community it would effectively be your word against theirs. If they are well known in a good way then their word may bear more weight, and you may just come across as angry, bitter, and unhinged. You may end up just hurting yourself - the best outcome will be if you only go through official channels.

I KNOW that this man is a paedophile so I have no worries about his innocence because it doesn't exist. Unfortunately he isn't in jail but he will commit another offence. I would bet my life on it