should people who work with kids....

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Associate with someone who is a suspected paedo? Have NC for this but I am interested in what others think, I am absolutely being genuine.
The person in question works with kids, and has kids. She associates with someone who has been arrested on several occasions and due to lack of solid evidence cases have been dropped eventually. However SS had to be informed and they did their research and deemed the person a risk to kids, and basically said they believed he was very likely a paedophile. The person who works with kids was fully informed of this and warned that her children should not be left alone with her 'friend'. Bearing in mind she only associates with said 'paedophile' to piss off an ex partner and also because I think she believes there will be a hefty payout for her in a will eventually.
If this person was working with your child/children, or was your friend and you were at their house and your child possibly around the risky offender how would react? AIBU to think that she's a fucking disgrace and if people found out they would go bat shit?

I am worried. I'm such a worrier and I know it's not my fault but I'd be overwhelmed with guilt if a child was hurt and I hadn't spoken out

Ofsted are quite powerful
When it comes to her registration As a child minder.
They will also be able to work with social services, they are quite hot on child protection due to previous cases and would be on her case asap.
I think they should be the first port of call, it can also be anonymous if needed

It's really put my mind at rest that people don't think I'm overreacting or being petty, thank you all

Yes I'd have a big problem with this,not long ago in the news and the newspapers there were women that worked with children and were mothers themselves who were associating with someone like the person you've described and those women went onto abuse some of the children that were in they're care and one even sent pictures to him of one of her own children.

I used to work with children and every single place I worked would have had a big problem with it,we'd have been let go I'm sure of that and as a parent I'd never knowingly have anything to do with anyone like the man you mentioned.

It would be very unusual for social care to publically assert that they believed someone was a risk and to not remain involved.

Deffo ring social services...

I would start the convo with:

He's been charged with offences and as such, social services and police have said that he is to have no unsupervised contact...

However im aware.... X, y,z...

Any soc serv dept will definitely be interested.

Your best point of contact , as other posters have said , is the Local Authority Designated Officer ( LADO) give details of your friend and the alleged perpetrator. The LADO can easily check info with social services and police and if required call a strategy meeting to discuss risk which would include your friends employers.

You don't have to give your name and can remain anonymous. Any good LADO will make the quick Intel enquires to see whether the man is known and take it from there.

Thank you all for your advice, I am going to be making at least one phone call tomorrow. I may well be worrying over nothing because I am not local to this woman (she isn't my friend I know some of her friends) so I couldn't say how often she associates with this man now, I know it was regular a while ago but it's highly likely she's keeping it under wraps. There's a back story about why she'd do that but it isn't my business to discuss

Posted too soon. It's a big concern and would much rather overreact than a child be hurt by this man. Who I am undoubtedly convinced is a paedophile and so are many of his relatives

IAm why would the OP start with that? This man hasn't been charged with anything and the police and social care have said no such thing.

The OP would be better sticking to anything she knows to be fact. Otherwise she may be dismissed as a gossipy fantasist and it will be unhelpful to any investigation that needs to take place.

I would make a call to the social services team previously involved with the man in question as well as the woman. I assume this would be based on where they live. So if they live in different areas, different teams. Also if the man has recently moved, the team at his last location may have be involved more.

So discuss with social services what you know in relation to this woman, most definitely. But don't ignore that this man is knowingly having contact with a family including young children despite his previous involvement with the police and ss.

What a horrid situation.

He HAS been charged with sexual offences against children. However expensive barristers and no physical evidence led to several cases being dropped. However this mans behaviour with shall we say electrical devices confirmed to most that he was certainly not innocent. And he has never been found not guilty as the woman who associates with him has told people. She knows he hasn't. So why she would lie about it is also worrying

He HAS been charged with sexual offences against children. However expensive barristers and no physical evidence led to several cases being dropped. However this mans behaviour with shall we say electrical devices confirmed to most that he was certainly not innocent. And he has never been found not guilty as the woman who associates with him has told people. She knows he hasn't. So why she would lie about it is also worrying

Am I correct in thinking that because he has never been tried for the offences which weren't proceeded with that should another offence be reported the old cases can be reopened?

I have reread this serveral times and I'm confused I thought only a judge can make a criminal conviction, unless person has a caution in which a police officer can issue if the guilty accept it.

couldn't say how often she associates with this man now

Until you know all facts then I wouldn't be doing anything

I would hate my children to be taught by someone who shows such poor decisions regarding safe guarding

I cannot write too many details for fear of outing myself. I KNOW this man is a danger to kids, and I KNOW that the woman in question was told that under no circumstances ever again was he allowed unsupervised access to them. And I KNOW that she has now sought people out whom she normally wouldn't talk to and said that she now doesn't associate with them because there is no smoke without fire. But she hasn't said this to any of her nearest and dearest IYSWIM, and it's strange because they would wonder why she no longer associated with them as she was always singing their praises. Her relationship with the man is false and she has an ulterior motive. However I am concerned that she is trying to disassociate herself with him by lying to people who will pass on what she says to cover her back. I am concerned for her kids

Let's just say her judgement is clouded by the person/people she intends to piss off by having this man in her life. That is her number one priority

You seem to know an awful lot for "certain" about two people who I think you have said you don't really know personally. So all you really have is gossip and hearsay. If you are genuinely concerned (and not just getting carried away by the drama) then report your concerns to the relevant authorities. In this case social services and the LEA if she works in a school. Don't go around telling her "friends" because you don't seem to have many facts.

I do know an awful lot I'm just not going to put exactly how I know her for fear of being recognised

So write down all the things you know - and how you know them to be true - so an example might be " I know this man was arrested and charged with using child pornography because I lived in the same house/was part of the arresting team/am his sister"

Write a list, and take it to the police.

He doesn't have any conditions imposed on him by the police because he is as yet unconvicted. SS deem him a risk. However the point f this thread really was if you found out your kids TA was associating with a man like this or she was your friend and your kids had been near him without you knowing what he was how would people take it

I KNOW that the woman in question was told that under no circumstances ever again was he allowed unsupervised access to them

Told by who? As he has not been convicted, I don't see how someone "official" could say this?

OP, with the greatest of respect, you seem to be wishing to whip up a lynch mob.

Lynch mobs are unhelpful.

If you are concerned, record your concerns and go to the police.

By someone related! I am simply asking what people would think in this exact situation. I am not asking you to believe me or agree with me and I am fully aware it sounds an awful situation. And I wish it wasn't true but it is

Disqualification by association forms are to be completed by all members of staff in most schools so if she is working in a school she will have had to fill one in. If she's lied in the form there would be serious repercussions. I would advise you to contact the Safeguarding Officer in your local Education Department and advise them of your concerns ASAP