should people who work with kids....

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Associate with someone who is a suspected paedo? Have NC for this but I am interested in what others think, I am absolutely being genuine.
The person in question works with kids, and has kids. She associates with someone who has been arrested on several occasions and due to lack of solid evidence cases have been dropped eventually. However SS had to be informed and they did their research and deemed the person a risk to kids, and basically said they believed he was very likely a paedophile. The person who works with kids was fully informed of this and warned that her children should not be left alone with her 'friend'. Bearing in mind she only associates with said 'paedophile' to piss off an ex partner and also because I think she believes there will be a hefty payout for her in a will eventually.
If this person was working with your child/children, or was your friend and you were at their house and your child possibly around the risky offender how would react? AIBU to think that she's a fucking disgrace and if people found out they would go bat shit?

Exactly star
I am not friends with this woman. I know who her friends are but they only know of me and I'm fairly sure she would make up all sorts of cock and bull if I told them. They would need to solid proof to see through her lies, and obviously I don't have anything I can show them to prove the truth.

If this person is working with children who are aged 5 or less, there is a strong chance she might already have a serious issue to contend with. The legislation for children less than 5 and in an early years setting / childcare is different than for a school setting. There is something called 'Disqualification by association'. In effect every body working in childcare of under 5s has to not only have a DBS but has also to declare that they do not know of anybody living and associating with them who might be a concern.
I would certainly suggest that they fall under that criteria, especially if SS are involved, if she is working in an early years setting. By not declaring it, especially if she has been warned by SS, she lays herself wide open to being disciplined and potentially sacked.

Social services are aware of the situation, but without 24/7 monitoring and the fact that the paedo is still as yet unconvicted they wouldn't go to massive lengths to watch her. I know she has the person in her home and her children know them well however if she does leave her kids alone with them (I wouldn't risk it even for a minute) then how would anyone know.
She doesn't work with kids under 5, I know that.

I wouldn't like this at all OP. If anyone I knew was a paedo, no matter how close I was to them, I wouldn't want to be near them again.. Let alone have my children around them.

Exactly. To have to be TOLD not to allow your kids unsupervised access with a suspected paedophile is beyond belief. Especially when she knew every detail

reading this just brought back a horrible memory i have.
No he should not be around the children and that woman is a fool.

christina
Unfortunately this situation affects me too, which is why I was asking if I was BU to think this woman is such an idiot
It's so wrong and should absolutely be illegal

As long as he is not alone with kids I'd be ok with it. The more isolated and shunned these people are the more likely they are to offend. They have nothing to lose. Better that someone talks to him than no-one.

What has the man been accused of? Rape? Abuse? Grooming a teen? Photos? Porn? Youngsters or teens? If you are assessing risks these factors are relevant.

Molesting young kids and also internet related charges

The thought of a dirty pervert breathing the same air as my kids knocks me sick

Sorry to drag up an old thread but this problem is now becoming a huge issue. Cannot say too much as don't want to be outed, but the woman in question is now telling certain people lies about associating with the suspected paedophile (saying she does no longer because she doesn't believe there is any smoke without fire) now several families are concerned that there is either a reason for this which the police should be involved but she doesn't want to risk her Mother Earth act being exposed or losing her job or she has somehow realised that people loosely connected to her have been told the truth and is trying to throw people off scent. She has made references on her Facebook account that are very likely to be about the paedophile and his wife over Christmas (gifts received and gatherings) which obviously point to them still being on the scene. I'm torn because I know of people who trust her implicitly with their kiddies :(

Please someone give me some advice because this issue is really playing on my mind

So she's using the fact that she works with kids/is good with kids/is trusted with kids to bring those kids into the company of these people?

Do her friends know about the allegations against this person?

I know this is a blunt question and you might not be able to answer it, but I have to ask. Is she a childminder or a nanny? Are people's children likely to be in her sole care whereby this person could have access to them without their parents knowledge?

I agree OP she is a fucking disgrace.

The disqualification by association also affects all those who work with children Key stage 1 (so under age 7) .
I work as a TA and recently all staff had to complete a disclosure in which we had to sign to say we did not live or associate with anyone who had convictions (not sure if it included unconvicted tbf) Anyone in such a situation could potentially lose their job.

So is, and should be, taken seriously.

No she works with infant school kids. Although she is also a registered childminder and could still be doing that in the holidays. As far as I am aware bits have been mentioned by her friends of friends and she has lied about it saying its malicious lies. But I know 100% that it isn't. And I know what horrendous trouble it would cause if he actually touched a child (I will say allegedly again for legal purposes in case anyone recognises this thread and tries to accuse of any slander etc) I know exactly who to send messages to or get word to I'm just a bit reluctant because the woman in question is a particular waster of police time and I know she'd have them knocking at my door

OP reading up posts you sound desperate. I would not want to be near this person. Whether they have been convicted or not you say there is evidence and he deemed a risk. If others are stupid enough and happy to let their kids be in this persons presence then let them get on with it. Just keep you snd your kids well clear.

Report your concerns and information to her employer, professional association if she's a teacher or qualified coach, Ofsted if she's a childminder (hope not!) and to social services (since her DC could be at risk too).

If you are really concerned you need to report it to Ofsted, the council children/families department and the relevant schools of the DC she looks after.

What do you mean she'd send the police to your door?

The fact that there are no convictions might not save her job, and nor should it in some cases. That was changed after the Ian Huntley conviction because he had so many accusations here there and everywhere that weren't put together. He also used his partners job to be trusted by children - is that what is happening here OP?

Because it's one thing to still be friends with someone you believe has been wrongly accused, but to allow them to use your relationship with a child to get close/be trusted by that child is a whole different ballgame and needs investigating/reporting.

Thank you StillMedusa now I know
It applies to key stage one I will make sure her boss or lea or whatever knows the truth. If she actually has cut off contact (if she has they've probably pissed her off by not writing her into their will or something) then great, because I'm simply concerned about any children involved. Particularly her young daughter. I know she's used the wife as a babysitter but it has never been said that the husband was definitely not there. And this was while she went away overnight. Another concern of mine is actually a relative of the paedophile who has cut him out of his life totally but would take it extremely badly if he hurt another child and would probably take the law into his own hands in a blind rage

I can also honestly say she only associates with this person out of spite to someone else - because they said they wanted her children to be safe and she said that was her call and she would associate with who she wanted (after previously calling the man in question a 'kiddie fiddler') behind his back

I think you need to weigh up the hassle she's likely to cause you with the hassle you are feeling now. You sound desperate so it's not gone away and isn't likely to go away.

In your shoes I'd report your concerns to OFSTED, the HT of the school she works in, SS and go from there. She might give you hassle for it, but is that going to be any more distressing than the situation is at the moment?

She would accuse me of harassment, say she received threatening phone calls etc etc she really is a piece of work. She's anonymously called social services and DWP on her own flesh and blood maliciously just to cause issues

Social services have previously been involved with regards to this man and her kids so I am going to call them again on Monday