should people who work with kids....

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Associate with someone who is a suspected paedo? Have NC for this but I am interested in what others think, I am absolutely being genuine.
The person in question works with kids, and has kids. She associates with someone who has been arrested on several occasions and due to lack of solid evidence cases have been dropped eventually. However SS had to be informed and they did their research and deemed the person a risk to kids, and basically said they believed he was very likely a paedophile. The person who works with kids was fully informed of this and warned that her children should not be left alone with her 'friend'. Bearing in mind she only associates with said 'paedophile' to piss off an ex partner and also because I think she believes there will be a hefty payout for her in a will eventually.
If this person was working with your child/children, or was your friend and you were at their house and your child possibly around the risky offender how would react? AIBU to think that she's a fucking disgrace and if people found out they would go bat shit?

There is a position within all Local authorities called the local authority designated officer (LADO) whose role it is to investigate situations like this where there are safeguarding concerns about someone who works with children. This is who you should report this to, but you can do that by looking online for the number for your local childrens social care department.

If you speak to the LADO then you might be able to report anonymously. Or at least ask them if an anonymous report would be taken seriously.

I think that the disqualification by association only applies to people living in the same household. I'd be wondering whether her friend could gain information about, images of or access to children through her work

If they were living together and the other person had convictions then it would be relevant, hearsay isn't relevant though.

If you have genuine concerns about her judgement and as such her suitability the person you need to contact is the 'local authority designated officer' (LADO) for the authority in which she lives or works. A quick google should tell you who that is.

Havent read all of the replies, so im sorry if this has been said before. Im a safguarding officer, and it all depends on the safeguarding policy of the place she works for. Some policies specifically state they operate a disqualification by association policy, therefore anyone who associates with anyone guilty/charged with/known for sex offences against children, will be disqualified from working with children.

If you know who she works for, ring their safeguarding officer...anonymously if you want and put them in the picture. They then have a duty of care to investigate it and take actions as appropriate to their won safeguarding policy.

*own safeguarding policy

NO>NO>NO!

I work with kids. I would never associate with someone under suspicion or have my kids around them. I would explain to the person that although they may not have done it I couldn't be associated with them because I would risk my job. I hope she isn't a child minder. If her work is elsewhere as long as he never went to her work she might be ok but if he was convicted she could lose her job by association. It would certainly be looked into.
If they have warned her and she ignores this advise I would think she is taking a risk with her own children.

The past charges this man has faced absolutely are not hearsay and I cannot say too much more for fear of outing myself. Can I face civil action for telling her friends with kids the truth? (That he was charged etc and that social services deem him a risk to kids?)

No to what potatoface

If she's likely to belittle your information or say to the parents "Oh nosense hates me/him/is an ex" type thing you might be better off giving SS the details of these children and get them to inform the parents of the risk.

If we have no solid evidence against someone, is surely contradicts that everyone is innocent until the opposite has been proven.
There are pleeeenty of cases which exist only due to jealousy and envy turning into blackmailing.

What's the nature of their relationship? If they are in a relationship and you are concerned he is abusive due to what you have been told (sexual abuse is still abuse) then you could ask under Claires Law a disclosure be made to your friend by the police
www.telegraph.co.uk/women/womens-life/11369454/Clares-Law-Find-out-if-your-partner-has-a-history-of-abuse.html
On a personal level I'd keep well away from her. Any story that involves social services/risk to kids/suspected sex offender isn't likely to end well.

I assure you that this is not one of
Those cases. He absolutely is a paedophile and a police detective and SS think he is a risk. It's only
Down to lack of evidence in the CPS eyes' and expensive barristers that this man is not in jail. It's absolutely the most fucked up situation I've ever come across but it is 100% undeniably certain that this man is a disgusting dangerous paedophile and another child will become victim to
Him

They're not in a relationship. They used to be related by marriage and now she associates with him
Purely to piss off his biological family
Who have disowned him completely

hmmmmm, fucking rich pedophile..... ok, that makes sense.
is the lady in question related to him?
does she work with other ppl's children, or only her children?

Completerly wrong to associate imo.
A relative of mine knew someone who is a child abuser.
He lived in the area i live. I told my relative never to talk to me if he saw me in the street if he was with this person. I didn't want my kids to have any association with this person. Didn't want them to think it was ok to talk to this person. My relative understood and never did. He is not friends with this person even at the time - just someone that is a friend of a friend that he knows and may have said hello to and had a chat. He no longer sees him thank god.

Get it reported to police and social services. Either way you're concerned for the safety of a child/children. Hateful situation for you and your friend needs to have a big long think about her priorities.

I've decided the first thing I am going to do is contact social services on Monday. Explain that the woman is attempting to get word out that she no longer associates because she now seems to think he is a paedophile (but it is highly likely this is to throw people off) and give them the details of people who I believe would trust their kids with her. Then I am going to see whether they think informing the school she works for or the Local Authority of what she is doing. In my eyes the fact she tells people who have heard that accusations that he has been found 'not guilty' in a court of law when he absolutely hasn't screams all
Sorts of wrong. His cases have been dropped due to lack of solid evidence he has never ever been found not guilty so all these things are still on his record. And if social services say they don't want him having unsupervised contact with his own grandchildren then what woman in her right fucking mind would have him around her kids!

Contact the local safeguarding children board, they will be very helpful for you, OP. Is she a registered childminder or unregistered one? If she's a nanny or an unregistered childminder she technically won't need any qualifications what-so-ever or DBS checking so there wouldn't be much you could do apart from contact the local safeguarding board, who should be able to point you in the right direction for the other services too.

And before it's said, I know that childminders should be registered but I've come across my fair share of unregistered childminders so it's a possibility!

I realise I have probably said too much now but I don't care. This has gone on for long enough and her behaviour is disgusting. I'm fairly sure I haven't broken any laws with what I have put on here so she can call the police all she wants.

Her judgement is certainly suspect. And if she's a compulsive liar she's hardly the best person to be working with children. YANBU. She shouldn't be doing the job she's doing. Contact SS about your concerns.

YANBU. I'd be worried about her DC and those of anyone who visits.