New nursery expects all potential pupils be potty trained, even the 2 year olds.

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That's it really. I'm new to this part of town, and so is this nursery.

When I enquired with the admin about this policy, they said every potential pupil must be potty trained.

AIBU to think this nursery can just fuck off? I will potty train my little child when both the child and I are both ready.

Ludicrous. Irresponsible! Elitist!

the problem i have found and it could just be the school ds1 attends is that they are not willing to adress the fact the child has autism and will therefore probably [ obviously not always]have some behavioral issues i might be skewed in my thinking as ds had a really bad experience in mainstream but i,m not the only parent with a childwith special needs that was concerned.

Dd HT of her old mainstream was very clued up on ASD. She had a dd herself with ASD, and saw that mainstream wasent working whatever provision they out in place, so helped dd get a place at her SS.

that does help Aeroflotgirl personally i think they should at least send the sencos on the early bird plus course bu t this appears not be happening in my LA at least.

it really depends on the mainstream school and how willing they are too adapt i think the mainstream school i,m concerned about wasent as willing as most having said that the mainstream school thats just across the road also has a child with asd and i,m friendly with his mum she is also not happy with his care.

Yes they should, there is not the resources in MS schools.

persaonally and i know i,m biased but i think inclusion in mainstream schools paticularly with kids that have ASD is shite more and more kids are being diagnosed with ASD Schools

the end of message didnt show up but schools need to deal with it!

Well mine are in their mid 30s and they were all potty trained by 18 months. As others have said, that's what you did when you had to wash nappies. They slept through the night in their own cots, in their own room, at six weeks too.

Well, I was trained from 15 months and slept through from 4 weeks....what did you do wrong?

I could also walk from 8 months, read from 18 months, write fluently at 2, and swim 50m and ride a bike without stabilisers from 2.5, and by 3 I could do the monkey bars using only my little fingers...but that's just what we all did as kids in the 70s when we weren't mollycoddled!

flash, I was a child of the 1970s I could not do any of those things 😁

me neitherAeroflotgirl born in 73 was toilet trained surprisingly early about 18 months my mum was toilet training my older sister who was two yrs older [ and not getting it ] and i said potty one day so she sat me on the potty and that was it think it was just a fluke my sister was a lot older though and my mum said she always came out of school cross legged and wet the bed up intill 7 or 8 i wasnt amazingly quick with any other areas of development though!

I was born in 1975, and was not properly toilet trained until 3, my mum used cloth nappies. Don't know what went wrong with me .

I was born in 1975, and was not properly toilet trained until 3, my mum used cloth nappies. Don't know what went wrong with me

Ironically my neice was born 2008 and was potty trained at 20 months.
-It's almost as if there has always been potty trainers at both ends of the scale.--

out of interest if my son had been born twenty years ago when nurserys refused to take children that were not toilet trained would he have just not been allowed to have his nursery year?

Either that or you would have put him in pants and sent changes of clothes.

That would have been a bit daft though as at five and half he is only just starting to show some signs that he may be ready to start toilet training I would have had so send several changes of clothes as he would have just peed himself glad times have changed!

That would have been a bit daft though as at five and half he is only just starting to show some signs that he may be ready to start toilet training I would have had so send several changes of clothes as he would have just peed himself glad times have changed!

Yep, that's what happened to me.

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Yes, they'd probably have refused to take him. The nurseries I attended only took toilet trained DC. My mother said she made sure I was trained on time as she wanted me to start nursery at 2 1/2. I do remember that the Reception classroom at the school still had a pants cupboard for accidents though.

Ecd both mine. Dd reliably dry (took herself to toilet/asked to go) by 2, ds still having a few accidents a week at 3. Disagree with pp who says it affects nighttime dryness tho. I believe this is biology, ie inherited, not trained.
OH and I were both pt trained in 70s and dry in day by two - annoyed that so many posters refuse to believe this - it was AVERAGE. That means there were ones who were earlier and later, but the AVERAGE age has risen because now most parents wait for signs of 'readiness' which was unheard of then, you just got on with it.
BUT I was dry at night shortly after two, OH not till after seven. This was not training. MIL tried lifting, bribing, shaming, making him do the washing, nothing worked. His body just went on producing urine at night, mine didn't. Dd was somewhere in between - by four she was aware of a full bladder and would get up twice in the night to wee (most children just don't need to do this) ds (5) is still soaking the nappy (or bed when he periodically requests not to wear a nappy because he's a big boy now) 2-3 times a night. I am trying to be philosophical and not boak at the smell of wee when I go into his room in the morning

I just find it a suspicious circumstance that the children in my extended family who were EC or cloth nappied were dry at night significantly earlier than those that were in disposables. Same genetics, same background. Not a huge sample, but the anecdotal evidence from other friends matches it.

It doesn't have to be all or neither. There could be a proportion of children with hormonal issues that mean they can't train before a certain age (which would explain the articles about extended nighttime wetting rates being the same); others can once they have the awareness of their toilet habits; others just do anyway. Thinking about it, there are probably also kids who only wet first thing in the morning but because they do it in their nappies parents don't realise they're actually dry overnight until after they've done daytime potty training.

Slightly OT but I'm curious now, would DD have really had the hormone change at age just-1? She alway had a massive morning pee at that age, which she no longer does now (nearly 4), so something's changed in between, I assumed that was the hormone thing.