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WIBU to stop halal meat

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BoringlyRestrictive · 06/12/2015 10:10

Am going to be divorcing H in the new year.
He is Muslim. In so far as he observes Ramadan and he eats halal.

He was perfectly happy to have a sexual relationship with me prior to marriage. He was perfectly happy to get me pregnant prior to marriage (marriage meaning the religious blessing). He even lied to his parents/families that dd was born early so it looked like we were pregnant just after marriage (found out about pregnancy one week before)

He has never attended mosque since I've known him. He does not pray at home.

He doesn't drink, smoke, gamble - as this are all forbidden.
He eats halal meat. But he is happy to over look mainstream haribo (which contain gelatin) when he wants them as they are cheaper and come in bigger bags then he halal ones.

Once we separate the DC will be with me. They are 3&1. They have no clue about Islam or halal or whatever. Dd is starting to learn as she asks for things (chicken pizza or sausages) and I have to explain that we have to get special ones.
But it's not the most straight forward always. Limits where we can eat out and means visiting my friends and family she pretty much either has to eat vegetarian (and feels left out) or they have to buy halal meat and prepare separately.

So (sorry for length) WIBU that after we separate I stop feeding them halal meat?
If H decides to resume his religion and actually do some religious education with them then perhaps I could revert but otherwise if he isn't going to teach them about Islam and being a Muslim is it really wrong of me to feed them whatever the hell I like (I will draw the line at pork just incase they decide to pick up Islam later in life)

I'm sure this will divide the crowd but I'm really wrestling with my mind here!
So as not to drip feed - it is a nasty emotionally and mentally abusive, controlling relationship.

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VeniVidiVici786 · 01/01/2016 15:18

ProfessorPreciseaBug I would not want anything to do with islam... .

How crass!

Hissy · 01/01/2016 16:00

My ex, ds dad, is Muslim. Drinks, smokes (tobacco and the other the idiot), has been to a mosque less than 5 times in all the 10 years I was with him. Eats everything except pork, wouldn't even remotely look for gelatine etc. He too was (and is) manipulative, abusive and nasty.

When he left I kept things around food the same for a while, but then I felt that adhering to his rules myself were an extension of his control over my life. So I stopped not eating pork products.

Initially I restricted my then 5yr old ds and he and I had many conversations between us about why I would eat some things and he couldn't. I explained about the religion aspect and said that I didn't want him to grow up and blame me for his eating something that is haram in a religion he may go on to adopt.

Once he understood the wider situation and the fact that his dad would not be happy about the pork, and why I gave ds the freedom to choose if he wanted to eat pork products or not.

He has chosen to. He's happy with his decision. His dad came to know about the pork this year and wasn't happy, but then again if not that, it would have been something else.. There were a list of things he found objectionable. he doesn't rule our lives any more and he doesn't call the shots.

Op, you don't have to do anything you don't want to. I get that he picks and chooses - IME this is commonplace. You don't have to feed them halal if you don't want to, what their dad does is up to them.

Where you sit on the pork subject is up to you. I've still not been able to cook pork meat, only bacon and sausages etc, but I have eaten pork if someone else has cooked it or it's a ready meal.

Breaking free of an abuser is hard at the best of times, what you eat and how you live is a part of it, you will benefit from counselling and the freedom programme to recover from the abuse, it will help you help your children too.

VeniVidiVici786 · 01/01/2016 16:45

ProfessorPreciseaBug And people of other faiths don't abuse their spouses? Are you serious?- or is this another Muslim bashing?

VeniVidiVici786 · 01/01/2016 16:48

kinkytoes I'd avoid halal anyway. I already boycott takeaways which advertise their meat as halal. Why is it infiltrating bloody everywhere? Wish it could just be banned- why should it banned? What do you understand about Halal?

VeniVidiVici786 · 01/01/2016 16:53

QuinionsRainbow Yes, including Qat.

VeniVidiVici786 · 01/01/2016 17:14

Flossyfloof There is no difference between Kosher/Halal food products.

The ignorance here is really incredible. People are quite happy to eat curries, (in Curry restaurants) takeaways, and will fly to Dubai or Turkey for a holiday and probably fly Emirates or Turkish airlines - and then you get an idiot writing down how they want nothing to do with Islam- pathetic!

Pipbin · 01/01/2016 17:16

The ignorance here is really incredible.

Well thank you for that. Are reanimated corpses of zombie threads Halal I wonder?

Spectre8 · 01/01/2016 17:28

VeniVidiVici786 - it matters for Sikhs who cannot eat meat that has been blessed, therefore it is getting increasingly harder for them to eat out or buy meat and trust it is not halal because as we all know supermarkets were secretly selling halal meat. Whilst baptized Sikhs will not eat meat those who are moderately religious and do eat meat at least want to follow their religion which states it should not be blessed meat. Perhaps supermarkets should sell both types halal and non-halal there is certainly enough market to cater for both.

VeniVidiVici786 · 01/01/2016 17:45

Pipbin
What do you think? you obviously did not hesitate to read through it- eesh!

VeniVidiVici786 · 01/01/2016 17:54

Spectre8 - Good point. Absolutely agree.

Pipbin · 01/01/2016 18:44

Vendi I don't eat meat so I don't give a shit.
I read the thread the first time round thanks.
I'm just pointing out that to reanimate a thread to air your thoughts is considered to be poor form on MN.
If you wish to discuss the matter then it would be a better idea to start your own thread.

FlatOnTheHill · 01/01/2016 18:58

Feed them whatever you want. He is hardly a practising muslim by the sound of it. It is probably good he isnt because if he was it could cause tension in the children's upbringing if you both have totally different faiths which could cause friction.

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