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"Sharia taxi driver told me i was disgustingly dressed" says actress.

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HelenaDove · 24/11/2015 00:56

It apparently happened after an awards ceremony.

www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3331164/Sharia-taxi-driver-told-disgustingly-dressed-BBC-star-Frances-Barber-tells-accosted-Uber-employee-showbusiness-awards-ceremony.html

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ShortcutButton · 24/11/2015 11:22
fuzzywuzzy · 24/11/2015 11:23

All I get from this entire thread is that any non white man behaving in an abhorrent manner towards women (in particular) are automatically classified as Mozlamic.

MistressoftheYoniverse · 24/11/2015 11:23

fuzzy I would like an answer to that question myself...maybe he had a t-shirt on that said 'Sharia Taxi Driver'...Hmm

Maybe that's the route we should go down...The ident-shirt must include political stance,religious affiliation and shoe size...

Then if she could of just said it was on his Ident-shirt...Grin

StrawberryTeaLeaf · 24/11/2015 11:24

Yeah right, because we're all going to click mystery links from an irrational poster Shortcut

Booyaka · 24/11/2015 11:25

Leelu, actually if you read through the victims accounts you would see that by the accounts of the victims the attackers did use Islam to justify their crimes by saying non-Muslims 'deserved it'.

Perhaps 'cultural attitudes' would be more accurate. But those cultural attitudes are very, very much entwined with Islam. A small sample of these attitudes is available in the following video where the brother of one of the accused blames the victims and describes them as 'dog crap on the floor' and says the grooming was not the fault of the groomers but the fault of those who didn't ensure girls were unavailable for grooming:

m.youtube.com/watch?v=m-aRQaZvZ-E

This attitude seems to be relatively widespread amongst Muslim men in the north, who seem to think being out alone, unaccompanied and 'immodestly' dressed means you're fair game. I have no doubt that there are quite a few white men who believe the same thing. But I don't really see anybody in authority trying to minimise the awfulness of these views when the people holding them are white.

ShortcutButton · 24/11/2015 11:28

irrational strawberry?? Confused

im not the one ranting about sharia taxi drivers/muslims streets/moslamic ray guns Grin

MistressoftheYoniverse · 24/11/2015 11:28

Strawberry I did and it was hilarious...Muslamic ray-guns...

StrawberryTeaLeaf · 24/11/2015 11:28

All I get from this entire thread is that any non white man behaving in an abhorrent manner towards women (in particular) are automatically classified as Mozlamic.

You are kidding?

Speaking personally, I have never witnessed or experienced ANYTHING could be considered or be suspected of being Islam or Sharia inspired misogyny.

What brand of logic would lead me to therefore conclude that anyone reporting it is a liar?

In the same way, I have never seem any Islamaphobic incidents for myself, but I would be irrational to conclude that they don't happen on that basis.

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StrawberryTeaLeaf · 24/11/2015 11:29

im not the one ranting about sharia taxi drivers/muslims streets/moslamic ray guns

Who is?

StrawberryTeaLeaf · 24/11/2015 11:31

And all the time calling yourself fuzzywuzzy Hmm

TinklyLittleLaugh · 24/11/2015 11:32

Shortcut's link is very funny and a tad disturbing.

fuzzywuzzy · 24/11/2015 11:34

All criminals regardless of religion, creed, colour and the crime they have committed all always blame their victim for their crimes. Ched Evans entire family anyone? (for the avoidance of doubt Ched Evans is not Muslim has no affiliation to Islam (as far as I am aware admittedly).

It is not peculiar to some deviant Muslim men to blame their victim in a derogatory way.

I've seen so many threads on MN justifying assault of innocent Muslim women, 'I don't agree with the assault, but in light of recent events...' it's OK to victim blame if the victim is Muslim.

I've not met any normal regular run of the mill Muslim person who actually cares what anyone else wears, I'm sure there are droves of (non Muslim) posters on this very thread who have normal regular run of the mill Muslim best friends who feel every woman should wear the burkha tho.

ShortcutButton · 24/11/2015 11:34

the cchild abusers did use religion to justify the abuse of white english girls, i believe

i, unfortunately, know more than i wish i did about organised paedophile/grooming rings

there are many around the uk. the nationality/religion of the groups vary from region to region. In some areas they are pakistani/muslim In other areas they are Carribean, others have Eastern European, Somalian AND some are WHITE BRITISH

The most notorious being investigated currently is that which involves British politicians stealing children from foster homes.i will provide links shortly, for those in doubt

These men do not rape and traffick childrena nd women because of any given religion. They do it because they are rapists and child abusers. They target vulnerable children and spend years grooming them. The women /childrena re viewed as commodities and are usually secondary to drug dealing/arms trading

fuzzywuzzy · 24/11/2015 11:36

strawberry, there's nothing on the thread or the tweet or the news article which says the driver was Muslim, she's assumed he is.

I am not questioning the incident happened. I'm questioning whether the taxi driver was Shariah.

PollysHoliday · 24/11/2015 11:39

I've just examined the reason why I didn't call the police a second time to insist that the assault was reported. It was because I felt I was responsible for being assaulted. I was hit because I refused to be intimidated and stood my ground. I felt that the police would think the assault was my fault for not being more submissive. The intimidation worked in the long term because we rarely left the house after dark (eg after 4pm at this time of the year) and certainly not if there wasn't at least two of us.

ShortcutButton · 24/11/2015 11:39

strawberry i kind of wish I wasnt asking, but im intrigued, what is up with fuzzys username?

Owllady · 24/11/2015 11:39

Quite right shortcut :(

MistressoftheYoniverse · 24/11/2015 11:40

Challenging what someone says does not mean you don't believe the incident happened...it's like me saying I was abused by a ''Christian taxi driver ...well how did I know he was a Christian?...was he wearing a cross?..10 commandments taped to his dash-board?... Ichthys tattooed on his hand?...

Owllady · 24/11/2015 11:43

Shortcut, I think strawberry thinks it's a reference to Rudyard Kiplings poem

fuzzywuzzy · 24/11/2015 11:45

if it were, would I not have spelt it Fuzzy-Wuzzy?

MistressoftheYoniverse · 24/11/2015 11:45

Oh Polly I'm so sorry that happened to you...it was not your fault but sometimes you can twist it in your mind to think that somehow if you reacted differently the outcome would not have been the same...bastards

MistressoftheYoniverse · 24/11/2015 11:47

So true Short-cut

StrawberryTeaLeaf · 24/11/2015 11:47

im intrigued, what is up with fuzzys username?

Google it shortcut

The most notorious being investigated currently is that which involves British politicians stealing children from foster homes.i will provide links shortly, for those in doubt

Who hasn't heard of that? How does that have any bearing on the crimes of other rings unless you were trying to refute a claim that all paedophile rings consist solely of Muslims. Which would be a ridiculous claim, hence no-one has made it. I doubt anyone has thought it or anything approaching it.

Do we really have to go through the pantomime of saying that sexists, attackers, harassers, perverts come from all backgrounds? Isn't that much completely obvious?

TinklyLittleLaugh · 24/11/2015 11:49

To me "Fuzzywuzzy" is basically equivalent to something like "n* n*". It was one of Alf Garnett's terms.

It probably means something totally different to someone younger though.

StrawberryTeaLeaf · 24/11/2015 11:49

Shortcut, I think strawberry thinks it's a reference to Rudyard Kiplings poem

No, I wasn't referencing Kipling.

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