"Sharia taxi driver told me i was disgustingly dressed" says actress.

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It apparently happened after an awards ceremony.

www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3331164/Sharia-taxi-driver-told-disgustingly-dressed-BBC-star-Frances-Barber-tells-accosted-Uber-employee-showbusiness-awards-ceremony.html

I haven't read the whole thread, but I do wonder how people can identify Muslims just by looking at them. It is very clever. I can't tell a person's religion just by looking at them. This woman can not only tell his religion, but also the particular fervency with which he holds it! incredible!

Not ploughed through the thread, but this is out of order, nicecarpet, even if it is meant to be a joke (is it?).

In numerous cases Asian women or to be specific Women of Pakistani Muslim descent in these communities were not only victims but I suspect turning a deliberate blind eye to the activities of their men because they too bought into the belief that White girls were slags and not worthy of respect. And that therefore such activities were no real threat to their marriage or families.
It made me absolutely sick to read reports of what Laura Wilson went through. There was evidence that when she and her sister went round to the house of her killer to confront his family and bring their relationship to light, his mother hit her with a shoe and yelled racial insults such as white whore. Why was his mother not prosecuted for a racially aggravated assualt? If the situations had been reversed and a white mother did that to her son's Asian gf,calling her a P**I whore, it would have been a clear case of racism.

*not only Not victims but...

Blimey well done MNHQ That was quick

Bambambini Fri 27-Nov-15 16:47:49 Thank you.

Bookaya, I have done extensive reading round all this subject, I have followed the Peodophile threads here before they were moved to the news section. I have read extensively about these cases as well as those of

www.nytimes.com/1996/10/21/world/275000-in-belgium-protest-handling-of-child-sex-scandal.html

Marc Dutroux

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As well as the so called Lover Boys who groom and abuse girls on the continent.

I am with you, I agree with everything you have written. I have read harrowing accounts of the parents who begged the police to help, and were told they couldn't control a young girls romantic desires when the police knew the man had loads of so called GF's.

Its beyond despicable, its rotten, its wicked, its shameful, I wanted us as a society to do a white march.

I just wanted to point out - as an aside as well, that a violent sex obsessed pig of a man with no morals is probably not going to suddenly turn into prince charming at home.

I watched the BBC Grooming scandal stolen childhoods and in it, a Muslim lady from a refuge or similar merely mentioned the point that some women at home would be similarly badly treated. IE beaten and treated like crap.

There may well be tons of support for abused muslim women, they just have to pick up the phone and get help.

However in some cases, there is also lots of castigation from a patriarchal religious/cultural set up and the pysce of a woman brought up to sit and be apart from the men, had her bed searched and checked for her periods, dominated and told what to do by men forced to pray separately, perhaps from poorer background, may not be so well equipped to feel able to call on and access the British so called justice system and fight against all of that to get help and speak out. I am aware that victims of dv take many beatings before they try and go to the police, even then, its highly likely things will be ok at home, and they will drop the charges.

Yes of course some wouldn't care, yes some would also think the girls were worthless. Yes Yes Yes.

No one is saying that the wives of these men didn't suffer.

But their silence often facilitated the abuse of children. I understand sometimes why they were silent. But often they were silent because when their husbands were out with these children they weren't at home. They also wouldn't want the shame of it bringing to their door. And they wouldn't want to face their husbands rage if they did speak out.

The reasons for their silence are reasons.

But they facilitated the abuse of children as young as 12.

I don't hold them (the wives) as responsible as the men and as the authority. But if Pakistani muslim women had spoken out maybe the authorities would have listened.

Those feeling pity for them think back to threads about paedophiles being facilitated by women. By mothers and wives and girlfriends. Then see how you feel about the poor wives.

It wasn't just turning a blind eye to an affair because you were frightened. It was facilitating child abuse on a vast scale. And if that is a cultural norm it deserves no part in this country.

brim maybe they would have listened maybe not.

There seems to be a huge cultural divide. Maybe the women thought these girls are of an age to have sex.

That they were the GF's, how much would they know of men shipping girls round, drugging them etc?

They may have suspected their DH cheating with white slags, did they know the extent of it.

You know I have found myself backed into a strange corner here.

My very original point was merely about the irony of the PC members of councils, and police who turned a blind eye.

For all those who are saying the women were frightened, cowed etc.take it from someone who is of Asian descent although not specifically of Pakistani Muslim descent, but I think there are sufficient cross cultural similarities for me to say this. Not all Asian women are silenced, frightened, cowed or in awe of their husbands. Quite often familial abuse of Asian women is carried out by other female family members, quite often older female relatives. Older Asian matriarch weild a considerable amount of power and some of them see abusing younger daughters in law as their payback for their years of suffering from their mothers in law. Some Asian men may not abuse their wives or forbid them from working, going out etc, but do not dare to interfere when their mothers are bullying and controlling their wives. I think all this rhetoric that Asian women were silent because they were afraid and are abused etc is patronising and fail to realise there are certain cultural dynamics at play and that within those dynamics Asian women are not always helpless and lacking in agency and autonomy.
I think there were many women who knew, knew the girls were young, ffs the reports said men in groups with their cars and taxis would hang around school gates waiting to pick girls up! Some of these women knew, a lot I think knew, saw, heard and suspected. They just didn't care or think it was wrong because it did not affect them and theirs.

Drastic they knew. Everyone knew. Everyone. And the cultural divide is why they would have been listened to.

A white person accusing a Pakistani person of something horrific was met with 'you are racist'. A Pakistani person speaking out against another Pakistani person is completely different.

I am sorry you feel uncomfortable. Imagine if it was your 13 year old dd? Or your niece?

There is a reason Rotherham had the highest rate of teenage pregnancy in Europe for many years. Girls as young as 11 if I am right.

I knew a 12 year old who got pregnant. It wasn't always Pakistani men abusing women. White paedophiles got in on the act too.

I overhead a woman once say of her 14 year old who was so far off the rails it was difficult to see a way back 'at least she isn't messing with the paki's. And at least she is nearly 15'.

Girls let down by everyone.