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"Sharia taxi driver told me i was disgustingly dressed" says actress.

435 replies

HelenaDove · 24/11/2015 00:56

It apparently happened after an awards ceremony.

www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3331164/Sharia-taxi-driver-told-disgustingly-dressed-BBC-star-Frances-Barber-tells-accosted-Uber-employee-showbusiness-awards-ceremony.html

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MistressoftheYoniverse · 24/11/2015 10:53

Thecat Sharia law is practiced in whole or part by Islamic countries and those who follow the Islamic faith i.e Muslims the law is taken from the holy text used in the Muslim faith ...so to try to distance the word 'Sharia' from Muslims does not wash.

Someone imposing their views or standards on others is also wrong.

Onedirectionarestillloved · 24/11/2015 10:55

Name and shame the taxi company.

EnaSharplesHairnet · 24/11/2015 10:58

Uber, apparently.

Booyaka · 24/11/2015 10:59

I lived next door to a mosque never had abuse never been spat on or at..would have got the bastards arrested if they tried that crap...

Actually, you may well have got a shock if that had happened and you'd tried to have them arrested. You may well have rung the police and been refused any response because as a white person reporting a crime committed by Muslims, and particularly one which involved a mosque, you may well have found that your complaint was ignored and even that you yourself would have been the one to fall under suspicion. And this is not now just someone in the web claiming this, there have been two official reports saying this is the case.

Like the friend's bimbam mentions, I have been the person who is on the end of the phone reporting a clear, ongoing breach of the law in which a person is in severe danger and being told it can't possibly be happening and I must just be a racist and threatened with action for making such claims. And this is despite the fact that some of the crimes were as clear cut as 'there is someone outside my house setting fire to a car'.

It was absolutely Kafkaesque.

SurferJet · 24/11/2015 11:02

So not surprised it's Uber.

Leelu6 · 24/11/2015 11:03

Can everyone please stop the anti-Muslim bashing?

There is NO evidence the driver was Muslim or even Pakistani. Or even that he was Asian. Or Brown.

She may have meant 'sharia' as a (misguided) substitute for 'misogynistic', who could have been white, black, Asian, whatever.

Leelu6 · 24/11/2015 11:04

Bimandbam said I don't think that the sex abuse of children was religiously motivated either. Doesn't mean that race or religion didn't play a part in it happening.

That's an incredibly offensive thing to say. No religion, including Islam, allows sex abuse of children, or indeed anyone.

Etak15 · 24/11/2015 11:05

Well that particular taxi driver was wrong to comment on her outfit, it's nothing to do with him what his customer wears, but let's not all start cabby bashing, my dh is a 'sharia taxi driver' (wtf?) he is polite, does what he's meant to be doing, has a little chat if the customers wants, keeps quiet if they don't, gets asked a million times a day 'you been busy?' 'What time ya on till' he doesn't give any fashion advice or comments and he helps old ladies to the door with their shopping and they often comment that none of the English drivers do this for them.
He has also had drunken racist abuse, druken non racist abuse, and racist abuse, he has had people doing runners without paying, and once had a gun put to his head Shock. He has once had to stop the car and call the police because the completely off her face women in the back started stripping off! He has also had customers refuse to get in the car because he's not white!
He has now bought a CCTV system for his car this will protect him and hopefully provide reassurance for any customers scared of 'sharia taxi drivers' I think they should all have CCTV.

BarbarianMum · 24/11/2015 11:06

When someone randomly abuses you in the street then walks off it is very difficult to report them to anyone (esp in the days before mobile phones) in a way that actually achieves something. This is probably why so much racial and religious abuse goes unreported also.

To be clear I have lived in a muslim area in my own home town and not encountered hostility, I have lived in a muslim country and been well treated. But in Birmingham I did, my friend did, other female students did and it wasn't one off and isolated incidents either.

ShortcutButton · 24/11/2015 11:09

I doubt this happened nikola becuase the women was dressed in a neck to floor, black gown How can that be referred to as 'disgusting'? unless he was commenting on her fashion sense, rather than giving his religious opinion??

DeoGratias · 24/11/2015 11:09

Of course he was muslim and she is right to use Sharia. She's a well established actress. She wouldn't make it up.

That doesn't mean most muslims in the UK tell British women to cover up (although some do) and that does not mean Sharia is great - it's not - it's sexist and homophobic and pretty awful and luckily as I am not in Saudi I am free to say so.

nowirehangers · 24/11/2015 11:10

*Or is it just that we believe victims of sexual abuse and intimidation unless there is something politically inconvenient about the apparent ethnicity/religion/culture (or status/wealth/connections) of the perpetrator?

So much for Rotherham. So much for 100 years plus of feminist campaigning.*

This.

Etak15 · 24/11/2015 11:11

Yeah maybe he likes to wear dresses when he's not driving his taxi, and her outfit just wasn't to his taste! Grin

MistressoftheYoniverse · 24/11/2015 11:12

Booyaka, I'm so sorry you have experienced that situation... I'm a black woman of Caribbean descent so I have no idea how it would have panned out would have loved the police to tell me about racism that would have been interesting..Hmm...

ShortcutButton · 24/11/2015 11:13

as for Sharia Law; it has fuck all to do with the situation. Sharia Law does not dictate that menmust insult and criticise random woman in the street

also, most muslims in the UK support the separartion of religion and state. Sharia law is often applied to the running of financial institutions and to mediate family disputes

in this context, it is plainly clear that 'sharia taxi driver' was meant as a racist slur...and i put it in the same paranoid bag as 'islamic ray-guns'

StrawberryTeaLeaf · 24/11/2015 11:13

There is NO evidence the driver was Muslim or even Pakistani. Or even that he was Asian. Or Brown. She may have meant 'sharia' as a (misguided) substitute for 'misogynistic', who could have been white, black, Asian, whatever.

Hmm

It was absolutely Kafkaesque

There's a lot of a it about Boo Smile

How about we just believe credible reports of misogynistic incidents, believe credible reports of racist incidents, believe credible reports of islamaphobic incidents and try to keep hysterical over- and under-reactions to a minimum?

EnaSharplesHairnet · 24/11/2015 11:15

Shortcut it is the form-fitting aspect that is sometimes taken as offensive.

OnlyLovers · 24/11/2015 11:15

Of course he was muslim and she is right to use Sharia. She's a well established actress. She wouldn't make it up.

None of that makes sense to me. Confused

Why 'of course'?

Since when was 'Sharia' an adjective used to describe/define people?

She's a well established actress. She wouldn't make it up. How does the second part of this follow the first?

MistressoftheYoniverse · 24/11/2015 11:15

Etak thank you Grin

fuzzywuzzy · 24/11/2015 11:16

I have asked before on this thread, how does everyone know that 'of course he was a Muslim taxi driver'?

He could have been Indian, a tanned white man, an olive skinned European man.

How does the lady know he was Muslim/shariah taxi driver?

EnaSharplesHairnet · 24/11/2015 11:18

Etak best wishes to your DH, it must be a scary job at times.

I think the whole point about licensing is being missed a bit. The black cab system in particular is well regulated. I wouldn't use Uber.

PollysHoliday · 24/11/2015 11:19

I know it's a side issue but in the early 90s I lived in a Muslim area in Birmingham and a significant proportion of the men were unfriendly to say the least. It ranged from older men crossing the road to avoid me and my friends, shopkeepers refusing to speak to or make eye contact with us (taking our money was okay though), to young men threatening us and actually assaulting us. I phoned the police about the assault but they never turned up to report it.

ShortcutButton · 24/11/2015 11:19

nobodyknows fuzzy; but it doesnt matter. Apparently

EnthusiasmDisturbed · 24/11/2015 11:20

What she seems to be saying it was one of those horrible Muslims not the nice Muslims that said this to me it is very patronising

Mentioning or making reference to his religion just wasn't necessary but I do feel it is necessary to highlight/call out aggressive behaviour towards women

StrawberryTeaLeaf · 24/11/2015 11:22

We can't know for sure can we fuzzy? But minicab drivers in London have their TFL accreditation (including their name) on display. He may have had flags or religious emblems in the cab (not unusual) he may have made an overt allusion to his religion.

I believe her.

(BTW your username is a bit jarring in this context)