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"Sharia taxi driver told me i was disgustingly dressed" says actress.

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HelenaDove · 24/11/2015 00:56

It apparently happened after an awards ceremony.

www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3331164/Sharia-taxi-driver-told-disgustingly-dressed-BBC-star-Frances-Barber-tells-accosted-Uber-employee-showbusiness-awards-ceremony.html

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ShortcutButton · 24/11/2015 20:16
Ubik1 · 24/11/2015 20:17

I've come to this late but...

It's only a random mini cab driver Confused

Granted he should have stuck to listening to Magic FM

StrawberryTeaLeaf · 24/11/2015 20:20

Magic FM for peace and harmony Grin

Katarzyna79 · 24/11/2015 20:22

deo so because I'm a sahm and "muslims" automatically I'm not "british" enough. Because you implied if i was part of the "british culture" i would make my husband stay home and go out to work? What a load of bull.

may non muslim white women are sahm, this forum has many such mothers, yet they are british enough . but because i am muslim non white i am not progressive and a backward immigrant?

Its a pathetic argument.

What mother wouldn't sahm if her kids are young?

what do you propose i do about my father and mil who have dementia? I choose to look after them may not be looked on as a job by yourself but it is, and i save the tax payer thousands.

btw my husband does all personal care for my father and he works too so please don't make assumptions about muslim men or sahm muslim or otherwise

ShortcutButton · 24/11/2015 20:22

I luves Reza Aslan [swoon]

Etak15 · 24/11/2015 20:22

"Or perhaps we could try and just accept that there are twats and that sometimes these twats hide behind their religion, but it doesn't make their religion guilty.

Islamaphobia and the huge, huge media stirring up of it worry me so much more then some idiot in a cab. It would be nice if we could just address idiots when we come across them as opposed to making sweeping generalisations."

You've hit the nail on the head here Prussianprue. I totally agree.

SheHasAWildHeart · 24/11/2015 20:23

Exactly Ubik1.

I think I might start posting daily stories of nice things Muslims do, that might shock some posters. First one.... Google intouch Leeds or intouch bradford or curry circle bradford to see Muslims organisations run by volunteers feeding the homeless and hungry for free on a weekly basis, no preaching about religion, nothing but friendly support for those who need it. I cannot verify if any of the volunteers are taxi drivers though.

Katarzyna79 · 24/11/2015 20:23

what i mean about what mother wouldn't be a sahm is if they had the means to do it, many women cannot afford to. I am fortunate my husband has an income that enables me to stay home. i think its a terric job i wont have anyone tell me I'm not british enough because i want to care for my kids

insameboattoo · 24/11/2015 20:25

Re: young men in Manchester, can't they mind their own business and keep their opinions to themselves? Why are the police not stopping this. Rhetorical question.

SheHasAWildHeart · 24/11/2015 20:25

Lol don't you understand katarzyna79 the whole fabric of British society will fall apart unless you start working. Kids will be rioting in these streets and thieving.

Katarzyna79 · 24/11/2015 20:26

deo me going to work wont solve people becoming terrorists pretty stupid line of argument. do you realise lots of muslim women work? yet whatya know there are so called muslim terrorists around?? We don't all sit at home like me apparently twiddling our thumbs.

SheHasAWildHeart · 24/11/2015 20:27

No time for twiddling thumbs when you should be out working and saving us all!!

Katarzyna79 · 24/11/2015 20:27

shehasawildheart lol i would love to work and i hope to one day prob oly be part time though too many people rely on me for their care.

got my mind set on veterinary work, don't think i want to do more caring for people becomes depressing lol

StrawberryTeaLeaf · 24/11/2015 20:30

A don't 90% of men from Pakistani heritage go on to be taxi drivers?

B Actually owl, I have to be frank, that^ is one of the most bigoted remarks on the thread

C Well that's as may be, but does anyone know what the actual percentages are, compared to men of other ethnicities/heritage? It's got to be very very high, in my anecdotal experience anyway.

That's the problem with relying on anecdote, isn't?

An oddly high number of the people I know from pakistani-origin families work in finance and accounting. It would be quite a leap to decide, therefore, that 90% of people of pakistani origin become chartered accountants. So I don't decide that.

In fact, I don't really believe that these 90% comments are innocently meant.

bimandbam · 24/11/2015 20:31

I don't hate or hold responsible every Pakistani muslim for the crimes that happens in my town or even on a wider scale.

My old boss was a Pakistani muslim. He was one of the kindest, gentlest men I have ever known and helped me escape a vile, abusive relationship with my baby dd. I know I could call him at any time and ask for help and his culture and his heart would help me.

The doctor I have seen today was probably muslim. I am not sure he was of.Pakistani origin but I suspect he was. He was kind and sympathetic and professional.

The surgeons who saved my dps life a few years ago might have been muslim. They saved his life. They could pray to a goat for all I care.

The strangers who took me in from a cold dark November night about 11 years ago when my ex threatened to rape and beat me if I didn't give him more money, while I had a 5 month old baby in my arms weren't English. They were from some part of Europe. I have never forgotten their kindness.

But I have also never forgotten that men raped and beat my school friends and my nieces friends and daughters of.my mums friends. That they physically and emotionally abused 100's of girls and will probably never be brought to justice. That our town officials turned their back on them for fear of being caled racist. That some muslims in our town and around the country use their race and religio to hide behind. That they have taken our tolerance and compassion and commitment to equal rights and laughed in our faces. That they continue to do so even now.

And when the muslim community raise their hands in horror at what we are saying, that we want our sons and daughters to be safe without being abused or being given drugs or being used to sell their filthy smack and say 'oh no not us we are peaceful muslims'. Well it is some of you and ranks are closed and racism cited.

Unless you have lived all your life in areas like the one I grew up in you can not tell me how to feel. I know there are good and bad of every race and religion. I know this because I have seen it. But in Rotherham what has happened is that the muslim community has closed ranks and become even more insular. Instead of reaching out to the people of Rotherham and saying 'look we have had a problem, we are working with the police and the authorities and we will get to the bottom of it' they are saying 'don't blame me. I am a good muslim and I know nothing of this'.

They probably are good muslims. But they did know because every teenage girl knew and some parents knew and the authorities did know.

And still we are told we must not judge. That we can not hold every single muslim responsible. That it is not a religious or race issue. That the girls were difficult and probably abused already which is why they were in care.

I hold all of Rotherham responsible for what happened. And what is still happening. Every white boy who has called a girl a slag. Every teacher that has wrote a girl off because she is from the wrong family. Every social worker and every police.officer and every muslim. Every dad who hasn't been around and every dad who has but hasn't stopped it because he was scared of the repercussions.

And until someone takes responsibility for it it will cause racial problems in the town and paedophiles will walk amongst us. I make no apologies for my feelings. I only apologise to the girls who suffered for what they went through.

Owllady · 24/11/2015 20:32

Can I just explain about my 90% remark, I would have explained earlier but I was just fed up of being highlighted. I was being flippant and ignorant (i understand that reading it back, I was and I can only apologise) but I remember watching a report from a chap - I think he's a journalist or politician working on equality issues but I forget his bloody name- who works with raising aspirations of certain ethnic groups and it was raised that those who were Muslim from pakistani heritage were (a v v high percentage) going on to be taxi drivers. The whole program and report was to explore why that was, whether the education system was failing this ethnic group, which I'm sure was a generational percentage. The reason this has stuck in my mind is not because I'm a racist bigot, it's because I'm fully aware that life in the UK isn't fair for all people, for all sorts of reasons, not just ethnicity but if that is something that pigeon holes people (which it does) then we all need to work towards making things fairer for everyone.

I fully take on board what I wrote in that one sentence was offensive and stereotypical though, I really didn't mean it as it sounded, which is a poor excuse but I'm looking after someone (who I should have farmed out to my husband Hmm) who is recovering from major surgery. I can only apologise.

SheHasAWildHeart · 24/11/2015 20:32

Some of you could do with watching
this video

Owllady · 24/11/2015 20:37

Tbh the only reason I even posted on this thread was because I felt sorry for the men and women who taxi/escort my children to and from school, my daughter who is severely disabled and they have nothing but respect for her/us/them and the title really irked me.

StrawberryTeaLeaf · 24/11/2015 20:38

Katarzyna

Please pay no attention to Deo's bonkers SAHM-bashing. She is a very famous MNer who has had a number of NNs and is implacably opposed to anyone being a SAHM.

She staunchly believes that all social ills can be tackled by women taking six-week maternity leaves and getting straight back to high-powered carers and becoming so wealthy that they can buy unlimited private education for their DC (another of her hobby horses) and purchase their own islands.

It is a very particular world view and pointless to argue with Wink

SheHasAWildHeart · 24/11/2015 20:40

I'd give anything to be a SAHM...

StrawberryTeaLeaf · 24/11/2015 20:40

...straight back to high powered careers^ ...

Owllady · 24/11/2015 20:45

I really need to be more explicit, when I say feel sorry for, I mean I'm annoyed they might receive criticism for this as well. It's becoming quite clear on this thread how much people who are Muslim are stereotyped and abused and my clumsy comments haven't really helped, but they honestly were just clumsy and I think it shows I never enter into debates about this.

DrasticAction · 24/11/2015 20:54

Not sure how I can be expected to report these people as I will never be in their social circle

No of course not. Perhaps not you or any other particular person who is a Muslim.

But some one said of one of the Mosques where some of the men went
" there was a different atmosphere when the new men came, I didn't like it but didn't say anything"

^ someone who doesn't go to a mosque wouldn't really be able to pick this up.

This is why there is talk we need more people infiltrating Mosques for intel.

I am sure there will be some mosques and people who know people who are verging on radicalism who need to speak out about it. Or the uncle of a friend of a friend who is known to be hard line.

Where I am there is a huge un fathomable network - community and it seems to be linked to money, and property, I am not sure if its money lending or something, in such large networks, they are in a better place to hear and know things that are going on.

DrasticAction · 24/11/2015 20:59

I've been on marches with friends, we are trying to bring up our DC to be good kind people in the face of bare faced hatred from non Muslims and the fear of daesh

Bare hatred?

Thats really sad.

Over all I would like to think UK is a tolerant country.

Its clear its been too PC really, too eager to please and bend over to religious needs from any group. Even if they are at odds with our values.

I can well imagine there are areas and pockets where one would experience this. I have heard many people speaking out about the need for unity etc.

fanjoforthemammaries7850 · 24/11/2015 21:02

What's this "our values" nonsense

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