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"Sharia taxi driver told me i was disgustingly dressed" says actress.

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HelenaDove · 24/11/2015 00:56

It apparently happened after an awards ceremony.

www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3331164/Sharia-taxi-driver-told-disgustingly-dressed-BBC-star-Frances-Barber-tells-accosted-Uber-employee-showbusiness-awards-ceremony.html

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bimandbam · 24/11/2015 15:56

Apology accepted gratefully fuzzywuzzy.

Booyaka · 24/11/2015 17:03

I don't necessarily feel bimbam is that far off the mark, at least not in terms of the way people in Rotherham feel. For example, recently some Muslim groups in Rotherham have organised a 'boycott' of South Yorkshire Police, saying that they think they have been unfairly treated by them, adopting a policy of non-cooperation and threatening other Muslims that do not comply with shunning. Now considering an awful lot of people in the town feel that part of the reason why the abuse went on for so long was because the Muslim community failed to report crimes they knew were happening (and in the case of some imams and authority figures actively protecting the abusers), you might understand that to some townspeople that feels like they are again refusing to recognise or prevent crimes against other people.

It's also true that a solidarity 'not in my name' march against the abuse by Muslims was very poorly attended. However there were several disruptive and well attended marches against reforms to the taxi system in Rotherham. These were done deliberately to prevent repeats of the same situation, but the drivers thought it was unfair victimisation and racism that they were asked to make changes. And no, when you have members of the community out giving interviews saying that the victims are 'like dog crap on the street' who have gone out dressed like whores, got drunk, and slept with people then cried rape, it isn't helpful. Or that people who abuse 12 year olds have done nothing wrong, and that the fault lies with their parents or social services who should have made sure they couldn't get at them.

So yes, there does tend to be a feeling in Rotherham that the Muslim communities primary concern has been their own image and what they perceive as 'unfairness' towards them and not the victims. But not without cause IMO.

DeoGratias · 24/11/2015 17:23

A teenage muslim girl on Radio 4 today from a London school did not exactly heap h erself in glory by saying why should muslims seek to prevent other muslims joining ISIS. I would all of us seek to do so and those from families where that is more likely take responsbility, step up to the plate do a bit of mea culpa not blame blame whom can I sue etc.

fanjoforthemammaries7850 · 24/11/2015 17:28

"do a bit of mea culpa"

it isnt HER fault though

Brioche201 · 24/11/2015 18:22

Muslims are getting a rough ride at the moment as it is.

I am getting a bit pissed off with reading whiny statements like the above

Lets be clear the Primary victims are those poor people killed and wounded in paris a week ago, and those young girls in Rotherham.

DrasticAction · 24/11/2015 18:24

Of course, but wouldn't it be better if she said she and everyone else should be vigilant?

fanjoforthemammaries7850 · 24/11/2015 18:25

No. The people beaten up in the street for being Muslim are also victims of all this too.

It's not one or the other.

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SurferJet · 24/11/2015 18:30

It's also laughable that an uber driver calls anyone disgusting when they're seen urinating ( & worse! ) in the street whilst waiting for fares.
Their slick advertising hides a multitude of sins.

fanjoforthemammaries7850 · 24/11/2015 18:31

"Their".

I do wish you would stop generalising.

DrasticAction · 24/11/2015 18:31

Booyaka

what a dreadful awful mess.

I do wonder in times like these and Rotherham etc whether Muslims are being let down by their leaders, whoever they may be...whoever organises the marches against the cartoons and things like that.

Because its not as though the community are silent on other matters. This is what the general public see's!

Its so hard, I would also feel quite defensive if I was Muslim right now!

I would also feel scared and worried.

I just wonder if the leaders are doing enough to help their people.

fanjoforthemammaries7850 · 24/11/2015 18:39

They aren't being silent.

Please go and read the thread about have Muslims spoken up. They have and it isn't being reported.

fuzzywuzzy · 24/11/2015 18:39

The terrorists responsible for the Paris massacre, were apparently bar owners and regular drug users and according to the press high at the time of the massacre. Their families stated they weren't very religious.

Now, as I don't hang out at bars or do drugs I'm not likely to come across them.

The 9/11 terrorists were also familiar on the drug scene and frequented strip clubs.

As I and friends and family don't frequent these types of places or scenes, it's not likely I'll come across people like this.

The Rotherham gang were also similar again I'm not likely to know them or of them.

Not sure how I can be expected to report these people as I will never be in their social circle.

The friends family I have are unlikely to go join Daesh they are as horrified and frightened as the next person. I have enough problems reassuring my terrified DC we aren't facing WWIII as I'm not entirely convinced myself.

I've been on marches with friends, we are trying to bring up our DC to be good kind people in the face of bare faced hatred from non Muslims and the fear of daesh.

I don't think that is whiny or whatever. It's a fact.

fanjoforthemammaries7850 · 24/11/2015 18:40

Did you miss the huge newspaper ad taken out by the Muslim council of Great Britain condemning the attacks?

fanjoforthemammaries7850 · 24/11/2015 18:41

It's disgusting

fanjoforthemammaries7850 · 24/11/2015 18:41

Fuzzy you shouldn't be being made to feel you personally need to apologise for IsIS.

fuzzywuzzy · 24/11/2015 18:46

and there's so much lies surrounding the Paris bombings. There were news reports trumpeting that the terrorists were found and a Muslim woman amongst them blew herself up. Her picture was in the press.

That same woman is alive and well and nothing to do with Paris or anywhere near there. A person who befriended her sold her picture to the media.

I saw posts on here going oh the female suicide bomber blew herself up when caught.

it is insidious these accusations and insinuations, & the acceptance and condoning of violence against lone vulnerable Muslim women and the elderly. Well it's understandable they're being beaten up/stabbed/mosques and houses being firebombed and they shouldn't whine about it.

Katarzyna79 · 24/11/2015 18:50

lol I'm sorry i find the title hilarious. Muslim men who don't want to see women and girls on a night out dressed scantily wouldn't be doing taxis at night. If they have issues they shouldn't be hypocrites and do day shifts instead?

I'm sceptical of this article mainly because the term sharia is used inappropriately its a complete joke, and the fact she is modestly dressed. salwar kameez's these days are more fitted and revealing as are saris and most indopak muslims in west wear them

Whattheuh · 24/11/2015 18:56

puzzled where do you read in there about honour killings?does it says a family should kill their own daughter/sister for going to the cinema with a male friend,or dressing too western? No. Does it says that the punishment for adultery is given in case of rape?no,as it isn't.and don't go bringing examples of Saudi or Iran or whatever,I'm talking about sharia law in the religion,not those countries twisted interpretation of it.what it should say in your post is that adultery is punished harshly,but as well there need to be 4 eye witness to the fact,for example.

Whattheuh · 24/11/2015 18:58

And I agree with all of what fuzzywuzzy has said.i usually refrain from commenting on this king of threads as they tend to quickly turn into Islam bashing and I'm tired of it.

Katarzyna79 · 24/11/2015 19:01

brioche what can an average muslim do?

I'm a mother of 4 small kids I'm a carer. my life consists of chores around them. contrary to what you think i don't spend all my days planning who I'm going to bomb next. If i ever go to the mosque i hear nothing of the kind i do my prayer hear sermon and leave. most people are like this

So how do you propose i single handedly or even with fellow muslims stop isis? its a stupid ask, its like me asking you to go and stop the IRA, would have been able to why should you be expected to?

bloody blame culture

i am a citizen of this country why do you presume only you are suffering because I'm muslim and youre not?

we are human first and foremost sadly your sentiment shows you like many think we are sub human and are to blame for all the ills of the world.

are you being outspoken do you want me to get a speaker and stand outside make a scene? i don't hear non muslim near me being publically vocal so why expect it of me? it doesn't mean i sympathise with the bombers just because you don't hear me

id say you are whining no one else.

i don't want sympathy never asked for it just don't make ignorant statements about muslims apparently not doing enough who are you joan of arc?

Whattheuh · 24/11/2015 19:01

And as fuzzy rightly said,no one need to take responsability for what someone else does simply because they are the same ethnicity,race,religion ,skin colour etc.did all the Christian/white people apologise for the killing by white gunmen?as is USA etc?

nowirehangers · 24/11/2015 19:11

What do you mean the woman is alive and well. Evidence for this? It seems she didn't blow herself up, interested to know where you have this piece of information from.

BadlyBehavedShoppingTrolley · 24/11/2015 19:13

don't 90% of men from Pakistani heritage go on to be taxi drivers?

Actually owl, I have to be frank, that^ is one of the most bigoted remarks on the thread

Well that's as may be, but does anyone know what the actual percentages are, compared to men of other ethnicities/heritage? It's got to be very very high, in my anecdotal experience anyway.

fanjoforthemammaries7850 · 24/11/2015 19:16

The photo was of an innocent woman who is alive and well. And fearing for her life.