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To be disturbed by the "Prepping" board.

845 replies

TheoriginalLEM · 07/11/2015 21:03

Is this a thing now?

Is there really a need to be stockpiling food, medicines and creating a bolt hole?

Am i missing something? Seriously (this is not a light-hearted thread), i suffer from anxiety and this is really disturbing me.

Hopefully people have just been watching too much walking dead.

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Enjolrass · 09/11/2015 16:57

I was unfortunate enough to once have neighbours who tried to stab dh for asking to turn the music down.

They would definitely stab someone over some water....even with no apocalypse.

Who is talking about murdering toddlers?

One person has said they would put a child after them. That doesn't mean all 'preppers' would.

And tbh if you were faced with that situation no can say what they would do. I imagine hearing a child cry from hunger or fear could possibly change someone's mind.

ArmchairTraveller · 09/11/2015 17:00

'i do wonder about the leccie though. although i would hope we'd receive fair warning if this were to happen? would there be another baby boom? ?'

Be prepared, buy condoms. Luminous ones.

DontHaveAUsername · 09/11/2015 17:04

"And tbh if you were faced with that situation no can say what they would do. I imagine hearing a child cry from hunger or fear could possibly change someone's mind."

That's right you never really know. People who say that they couldn't bear to watch a child starve, might just find that view changing if it was a case of "If we give this kid food, their parents will want, then their parents friends, and I and my DC's will then be left with hardly anything". We don't know for sure how we would react.

IrisVillarca · 09/11/2015 17:06

When the Bird Flu panic was at its height our neighbours emigrated to a place that remained untouched by it. I had PND and I was distraught, jealous and wanted to do the same as soon as possible. In my mind it was about the only thing that would keep us safe. I spent hours planning how to make it happen, mourning the fact that my extended family would die, having sleepless nights over how I could persuade them to come to.

I wasn't well at all, but it made perfect sense to me at the time. I couldn't accurately assess the real risks or believe the facts about the infrastructure in place to tackle it if it became a pandemic, so I took refuge in this comforting and detailed plan of how I could save my immediate family unit.

I can see a lot of that disordered thinking in the thought processes of some of the Preppers on here. Bottled water and tins of beans are just more accessible than emigrating halfway across the world.

DontHaveAUsername · 09/11/2015 17:10

From what I've seen you're the only one posting in here that has actually planned to emigrate across the world to avoid a flu pandemic, no one else has actually suggested that or said that that's part of their plans, so where is it that you can see "disordered thinking"?

IrisVillarca · 09/11/2015 17:17

Planning to weapon up and hide in a house with all the lights off is disordered thinking from where I'm standing, Don't.

My experience was an extreme reaction to something I imagined would happen which would never have happened on the scale I worried about.

But you are being deliberately obtuse, I expect. Which is fine. Your sociopathic tendencies are unlikely to affect me in any way in rl. Although I do hope you are not in possession of a firearms licence.

Zetetic · 09/11/2015 17:21

Gosh Iris. I must have hallucinated using my bag of emergency supplies and water twice in the last four years (long road jam / exit blocked by tree)

Presumably I was in a near delusional state and imagined both incidents (even though the news reports which are still online) as I would have been seeing strange zombies in the dark at the time due to my pathetic disordered thinking. Grin

AllOfTheCoffee · 09/11/2015 17:21

Dont, you have posted repeatedly that you are planning for a scenario where your local area is going to be cut off from the rest of the world for long enough for people to begin to dehydrate/starve/plan violent attacks upon your family in search of supplies.

None of those are going to happen within the UK. That's not denial. That's common sense.

To me planning for these kinds of events is disordered thinking.

Keeping extra food in over winter, saving up in case of a financial crash, preparing to be snowed in if you live rurally, all fine and sensible.

Planning for an event whereby you would otherwise starve along with your neighbours were it not for prepping, that's not good. That, to me, shows that you might need some support.

BreakingDad77 · 09/11/2015 17:22

I dont think there is anything wrong if your living in an urban area with at least having a basic plan if your were to lose leccie for a bit or a water main burst what you might do.

The water company would most likely provide bowsers/botled water and lecci via generators in a timely fashion but you should have awareness of flushing loo, showering freezer/fridge use.

gamerchick · 09/11/2015 17:26

Ah so your posting from a 'place' iris? That because things were rational to you but actually extreme, therefore the rest of us must be struggling mentally?

IrisVillarca · 09/11/2015 17:26

Sheesh, if the Govt send out printed info via airdrops some Preppers are going to find it difficult.
I am not talking about proportionate planning for events that are likely to happen

Zetetic · 09/11/2015 17:28

So why have you got a downer on the preppers site then because 99% of what is on there is proportionate planning?

DawnOfTheDoggers · 09/11/2015 17:29

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IrisVillarca · 09/11/2015 17:30

Because someone posted in AIBU asking if they should be worried. Then a number of posters from the Preppers Topic got all aerated and arsey and took it as a personal attack, refusing to read a lot of what has actually been written and talking about a scenario where you would have to watch your neighbours starve to death. In the UK. In 2015.

Zetetic · 09/11/2015 17:33

They got irate because of some extremely rude comments. And only ONE person said anything approaching your last comment.

OfaFrenchmind2 · 09/11/2015 17:33

Your sociopathic tendencies are unlikely to affect me in any way in rl.
Ahah, the psychologist doing a diagnostic behind a screen!

Hey, Iris, your moronistic tentencies are unlikely to affect us but are highly amusing!

AllOfTheCoffee · 09/11/2015 17:34

I live an urban area. If a water main burst, I would buy bottled water from the local supermarket and shower at my parents/siblings/grandparents.

If I had no leccy I would probably decamp to my parents and pay them in chicken nuggets and smiley faces.

The possibility of the entire town loosing power/water for a prolonged period of time is approximately 0.

MaudGonneMad · 09/11/2015 17:36

And only ONE person said anything approaching your last comment.

That one person has posted repeatedly about that scenario. With relish.

Fucking disturbing.

IrisVillarca · 09/11/2015 17:38

Oh, and why am I still posting about it?

a) I do find the general topic quite interesting wrt what you might need in a variety of scenarios. Not the mad ones, though.
b) no sad fucker slopes off to their pet topic and calls me a 'slaggy wanker' and expects not to get some right back.

Enjolrass · 09/11/2015 17:38

That one person has posted repeatedly about that scenario. With relish

It's still one personConfused

Not the majority

Enjolrass · 09/11/2015 17:39

no sad fucker slopes off to their pet topic and calls me a 'slaggy wanker' and expects not to get some right back.

I haven't been on the prepper topic so have no idea what you mean

MaudGonneMad · 09/11/2015 17:42

Ah, so DontHaveAUserName doesn't speak for the rest of the preppers, Enjolrass?

I haven't seen any preppers distancing themselves from those repeated comments.

Not that you have to, of course, but when a poster in defending the prepper community/boards/way of life repeatedly engages in disturbing and detailed fantasies about watching neighbours' children starve to death, it might be helpful for the rest of us non-preppers if it were made clear that this was an extreme minority view, and not the standard practice.

IrisVillarca · 09/11/2015 17:42

Go and have a look. Some peoples' idea of debate is to go and whinge and insult elsewhere. No doubt while cuddling some freeze dried potato and cackling.

AllOfTheCoffee · 09/11/2015 17:43

Yes but that one poster is posting on a thread the OP started for reassurance.

She is being the opposite of what I would describe as reassuring.

She also seems to be having her opinion validated by other posters, which to me is worrying.

If she genuinely believes that she may one day be faced with a situation in which she may have to chose between her own life and that of her neighbours for lack of food and water she needs encouraging to seek support. She does not need to have her paranoia validated by people planning for realistic scenarios because of some kind of misplaced loyalty to the cause.

Zetetic · 09/11/2015 17:43

www2.nationalgrid.com/uk/services/balancing-services/system-security/black-start/

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Northeast_blackout_of_2003

Blackstart is unlikely but could happen. (Sorry worked in the industry).

There are more likely scenarios of power being off for shorter periods.

They nearly lost Walham in the floods. Power could have been off for weeks.