To be disturbed by the "Prepping" board.

[TheoriginalLEM]

Is this a thing now?

Is there really a need to be stockpiling food, medicines and creating a bolt hole?

Am i missing something? Seriously (this is not a light-hearted thread), i suffer from anxiety and this is really disturbing me.

Hopefully people have just been watching too much walking dead.

buildingamystery If you actually took the time to read some of the threads you might find some useful tips for every day life and a group of intelligent harmless people.

What is it with all the judgemental, intolerant, mean spirited comments?

The zombies have come to pick over the bones

Could someone link to a report of Katrina which says how many people died of lack of water? I've read a few since it was mentioned and the reports (pubmed etc) either say the actual cause was unknown, or that most people died either of drowning or as a result of traumatic injury.

I'm an accidental prepper. I have a well in the back garden and about 1000 years of water purification tablets from interesting travelling pre-DCs. I will give you a cup of water in exchange for chickens or a goat.

LEM, i understand anxiety, its why i try to keep on top of things myself - living on a welsh hillside and dependant on a wheelchair (whilst also at the will of the dwp as someone mentioned already), i dont think prepping is a loopy thing for me to do? These are the things i prepare because of. And (to give an example) i keep some water, so that if there is a problem with the tap water (as there was in west wales this week), i dont have to try to get out to a silo and the 'authorities' can spend less time on me and more on other vulnerable people.

Can i just wonder aloud - I'd love to know when theres going to be a thread about the people discussing weapons they could acquire for zombie killing on the walking dead threads? Why are theoretical discussions around killing people okay there, but not when it comes to imaginary toddlers starving next door? Through has never given me the impression that she is actually a crazy, toddler murderer, perhaps i'm missing something

Why is there a rule against discussing how our 'stores' would fare in an apocalyptic situation, without people diagnosing us mental and paranoid? We all know we are prepping for real things, not actually zombies.

In relation to why people call prepping paranoid or accuse us of having mental health issues is that seeing us prepare for emergencies raises some insecurities among non preppers. They don't want to prepare because they don't think anything can ever go wrong, and if it does "someone/the government" will sort it out straight away. Now if no one (or hardly anyone) one was prepping then it would be easy to dismiss as silly because "nothing bad can happen here". But seeing more and more people begin to prepare for emergencies forces people to confront the reality that things may not always go as planned, and if large numbers of people are all prepping, then there may be some validity in doing so. It's far easier to label preppers as mental and accuse us of being paranoid than admitting there may be some validity in preparing in case things go wrong.

What was the thing about murdering a toddler I missed that one?

There was nothing about murdering a toddler. That's just what it's turned into as the snarling increased against preppers.

The only toddler that drove me clean up the wall was mine and happily she lived to become a teenager.

Pretty bang on that dont

Not read the whole thread yet, but glad it's been added.

I'm not a prepper and I don't anticipate apocalypse any time soon. However, utility grids are as strained as they have ever been and we had a 24 hour plus cut last year and don't live particularly remotely. I'm glad the topic is there, am going to use it to have a think about what we need to get in for winter.

To blow any credibility I have out of the water. Whilst I don't think face eating zombies will be along next month, 10 years ago we had little or no evidence of transmissible cancers. We now have evidence of two and maybe a third in the animal kingdom (Google Tasmanian devil facial tumour if you are interested). Diseases evolve, and whilst it probably won't be walking dead style Zombies, it's quite possible that some mass hysteria causing pandemic happens in our lifetime. MN might just be ahead of the game in adding it as a topic.

I think you have something there dont

ever wish you never started something. ....... c'mon guys!!!

i did get a bit freaked out by the apocalyptic threads etc but actually prepping for proper eventualities is eminently sensible.

i certainty didn't want to cause any bad feeling. in a wway i wish i was able to prepare for things but it would absolutely send my anxiety through the roof and id worry i was tempting fate whereas i can appreciate another person with anxiety needing to prepare for things.

i do wonder about the leccie though. although i would hope we'd receive fair warning if this were to happen? would there be another baby boom? ?

I can't remember what happened in the 70s as I was only
little but I think areas were given times when the electricity would go off. I don't recall ever being surprised by it. I assume they would do the same now.

Lem none of the preppers I know have anxiety. I don't see how you can deem prepping itself to be anxiety, it's like saying someone who locks their door at night has a crippling anxiety of being robbed. It's not anxiety just common sense surely?

Normal preparation for events that could happen in your environment isn't a symptom of anxiety.
Planning to watch children starve to death in front of you and telling everyone to arm themselves stops flirting with Normal and starts to bat its eyelashes at Unhinged.

Iris, you clearly havent met my neighbours :)

You look at your neighbours and immediately think they would stab you for a bottle of water and that you don't care if their children die?

How horrid. Truly.

I'm not planning to watch children starve, I just wouldn't sacrifice my own life in order to save theirs. If someone is truly starving, me giving them one meal won't save them it will just prolong their suffering for a little bit longer. And I can't keep feeding them my supplies because that's taking food out of my mouth and placing me in the same boat as them eg not having enough food.

As much as we would all love to be idealists and say we would help anyone who needed fed, no one really has the capability of doing that. Maybe you'd give a meal to a child, what about when they come back with their mum and dad now wanting three meals? Your supplies would soon dwindle and you might end up dying alongside them, when you shouldn't as you had the foresight to prepare ahead.

Prepping for things like flooding or being snowed in or a short term shortage is common sense and normal. The underground bunker and enough rounds of ammo to topple a small military are the paranoid ones.

Yup, they would definitely stab me for a bottle of water. Lovely people.

Iris I would care, I'd hate to see children die. But I couldn't help them if they were already at the brink of starvation. My first priority is me, once I'm safe and I have enough supplies to make it through the crisis then I could turn my attention to others but I wouldn't sacrifice my own life in a vain attempt to save a child who will die anyway. As emotionally uncaring as this sounds, if someone is going to die anyway there's no point in me dying with them.

So like putting on your oxygen mask first, on a flight?

More like making sure there's an oxygen mask in the overhead compartment.

Mustn't have gone off at teatime as I don't remember sitting snivelling in the dark over a cold bowl of Campbell's Mushroom.