To be disturbed by the "Prepping" board.

[TheoriginalLEM]

Is this a thing now?

Is there really a need to be stockpiling food, medicines and creating a bolt hole?

Am i missing something? Seriously (this is not a light-hearted thread), i suffer from anxiety and this is really disturbing me.

Hopefully people have just been watching too much walking dead.

www.gloucestercitizen.co.uk/Gloucestershire-floods-years-Walham-protected/story-16567070-detail/story.html

I feel that a lot of non preppers are hostile to preppers because of their own insecurity regarding preparedness. Non preppers don't want to prepare, they want to live in a world where nothing bad will ever happen, or if it does the government will instantly jump in and save them. The existence of preppers is a living contradiction to this mindset. If nothing bad can happen then why is that man storing food and water, why does that woman have a go bag? The only way they can resolve that while still maintaining a mindset that nothing bad will ever happen is by convincing themselves all preppers are nutters/mental health problems. So now nothing bad will happen, and the only reason people are preparing for emergencies are because they are gaga.

I don't think all preppers are nutters/mental health problems. Not at all.

I do think that preppers who fantasise about watching their neighbours' children starve to death have something of a problem, yes.

I prepare for circumstances which could happen. That is rational. Planning how your neighbours will die and you won't is not rational.
It's obviously a deeply ingrained coping mechanism for you Don't. Just not a very sane one given the details that occupy your mind. It's not a Fire Exit Plan or a Go Bag in the porch, for sure.

As a side issue, there is a lot of mental health nastiness on this thread. It's not a choice or something to be ashamed of having had, or having. You can be mentally ill and not prep, mentally ill and prep.

I think the word you are looking for in the peppers and non peppers who shoot and stab, are those with potential personality disorders, again, not a choice either!

"Ah, so DontHaveAUserName doesn't speak for the rest of the preppers, Enjolrass?"

Of course I don't, just like you don't speak for all non preppers. My view that I wouldn't put a childs life above my own may may not be the majority view, I have never claimed to speak on behalf of other preppers and nor will I.

"If she genuinely believes that she may one day be faced with a situation in which she may have to chose between her own life and that of her neighbours for lack of food and water she needs encouraging to seek support. She does not need to have her paranoia validated by people planning for realistic scenarios because of some kind of misplaced loyalty to the cause."

Once again, thanks for the concern. The saying goes "It's not paranoia if they are out to get you", or applied to this "It's not paranoia if it actually is a plausible scenario". You say it's paranoia for me to think that places in the UK could be cut off from the outside world for a few days with no food and water, I say that's a realistic thing to prepare for. Don't worry about me, I wouldn't want you to be stressing yourself out with all this concern you seem to have for me, I'm not.

but you don't need to stress yourself out. It's not paranoia if it actually happens - And we've seen the re

No, Dont. That's not how I think at all.

I accept that I could be skint and needing to rely upon charity for food. I accept that I could lose water or power for a short time. I accept the risk of flooding and need for relocation/temporary shelter. All of those things could feasibly happen to me. Preparing for them would be sensible, if I had the time/money/space/energy to be that sensible.

I can see the need for keeping a few extra days/weeks worth of basic food, torches and batteries.

I don't accept that I will ever be in a situation where people around me face starvation and I may have to defend my food stores with weaponry.

That is paranoia/anxiety/OCD and you need support in overcoming that kind of thinking.

For what it's worth some, including myself, did immediately distance themselves from even a hypothetical ruthless approach to survival but the more prejudiced posters here won't accept that

The general thread i never thought was in a bullying tone, but you are really pushing the limits of it now. She made one comment on one thread about choosing her own child over another. It has been brought over to here for the purpose of showing how "mental" all the preppers are and you are posting about it over and over again, whilst psychoanalysing people alongside. Amd yes she keeps justifying herself, why shouldnt she when being attacked over and over again.

Give it a rest.

Ah, so DontHaveAUserName doesn't speak for the rest of the preppers, Enjolrass?

I haven't seen any preppers distancing themselves from those repeated comments.

Well then you should read the thread. I did. I said I would definitely share....and have done in the past.

And I also said (about an hour ago)

'One person has said they would put a child after them. That doesn't mean all 'preppers' would.'

"I do think that preppers who fantasise about watching their neighbours' children starve to death have something of a problem, yes."

So do I. But no one here has said they would fantasize about that. Are you maybe getting confused with me saying that I wouldn't sacrifice my own life if a neighbhours child was starving and needed food? Because in that situation, I wouldn't WANT to see them starve, I just don't see how I could save them. If someone is already starving, then me giving them a meal won't sustain them indefinitely, it will prolong their suffering for a little bit longer. The only other thing I could do would be continue feeding them from my supplies, but that ends up with me being in the same boat as them, not having enough supplies. If it was a choice between me surviving by not sharing preps and the neighbhour dying, or us both dying because I gave them half and neither of us then had enough to make it through, I'd pick the former. My first priority is myself. Once I'm safe and secure I can maybe turn my attention to helping others, but to expect me to sacrifice my life to try and save someone who is going to die anyway isn't really fair imo. And to accuse that of being "fantasizing" about watching people die is just way off. Having to see someone die because you can't do anything to save them is NOT the same as fantasizing about watching them die.

Yes but that one poster is posting on a thread the OP started for reassurance.

So one poster opinions makes it ok for people to talk crap about other people?

I am not responsible for any other posters or what they put.

Bloody weirdos!!

I thought it was something to do with prep school not the end of the world survival scenario stuff!!

"That is paranoia/anxiety/OCD and you need support in overcoming that kind of thinking."

Ok if that's what you believe then we've reached an impasse. I'm not going to get support in overcoming rational common sense preparedness any more than I'd expect you to get help in overcoming your lack of desire to prep. Thank you for your concern though.

Bloody weirdos!!

See this^^

If it was said about people with any other interest it would not be ok!

I got 99 mental health problems but preppin' ain't one!

The government will fix it. Arf. Bless 'em.

One poster's words have been twisted to create drama - but let me take it down a notch. My child or yours? Mine. Each and every single time.

An 'interest' based on a doomsday scenario (of whatever ilk) is not the same as any other interest, in my opinion.

Apologies for missing your post, Enjolrass. I still think you and other preppers are implicitly normalising DontHaveAUserName's outlook. But that's just my opinion, naturally.

Maud. I'm afraid I don't get your logic. There's a board dedicated to the material excesses in tribute to the physical manifestation of the son of god. And you say prepping is fantastical nonsense!

There's also one about Camping. You don't see any posters there saying that a Wolf Proof Fence is essential kit.

I still think you and other preppers are implicitly normalising DontHaveAUserName's outlook. But that's just my opinion, naturally.

Can you show me where?

If there were a theoretical thread about camping in the outback there might be. Noone was planning on killing anyone, it was one post saying that in an apocalyptic scenario she would wprry about feeding her own family above sharing food with others. The sociopathic bitch

And you say prepping is fantastical nonsense!

Er, where have I said that? I said an 'interest' based on a doomsday scenario is not akin to another, regular interest. Like camping, keeping pets, knitting, even, dare I say it, style and beauty.

Enroljass I said 'implicitly'. Not explicitly. I think it's inherent in not directly challenging those sort of repeated and disturbing posts.

But as I said, just my opinion.

A prepping topic is bound to have as many views on it as any other topic. I'm not really understanding the issue that people hold different views within it. What is wrong with that Maud? I cant speak for Dont she has her own opinions.

Maud - whilst you didn't use that explicit phrase, you alluded in that general dirextion (as did many others).

And I'm simply alluding to my opinion that some form if unpleasant scenario has more basis in fact than the physical manifesto on of the son of god himself.