To wonder why so many Scottish people a thrilled when England do badly at sport?

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I'm not bothered about the rugby at all personally, but this is irritating me. I have several Scottish friends, and their Facebook newsfeeds are full of gloating about England being knocked out of the world cup. It's a recurring theme with all sporting contests - mant Scottish people will support some random team from a country they've never heard of, if they're playing against England. I don't see the same with Wales and Ireland. Why is this? Is there that much resentment?

There's an added edge when it comes to rugby because traditionally rugby in England has been played by the upper classes and in Wales it's been played by the working classes.

May have been 'traditionally' however this is no longer the case. I can name you many many English internationals that most definitely do not come from an upper class background. In fact far from it.

I do think that the 'banter' this time has stepped over the line, with people leaving SM due to the abuse, under the veil of banter, being thrown at them.

"Many Scottish people dislike the English.

In fact many people abroad dislike the English too although they are too thick skinned to notice.

Usually found by the bar boasting about their assets."

I am English, living in Scotland, and am painfully aware of this, goblinhat - especially in the wake of the referendum. It makes me really unhappy, as the flip side is that I have many really lovely, welcoming Scottosh friends, and love living here - but the attitude you are describing is one of the things that are making dh and I consider leaving Scotland sometime in the next few years. It will break my heart - I love it here - but it is horrible to live where you are hated.

Thelushinthepub
Inferiority complex

^ Yup and massive chips on shoulders which will be massively denied of course but doesn't change fact.

lots of Scottish euphoria? Using the OPs Facebook feed as evidence? Most Scots couldn't give a flying monkey about England being beat at rugby and there has been more posts about the Welsh being more delighted but yet "all scots hate the English" and scots being poor sports is banded about

I don't need a thicker skin but some posters need to realise that Scots are not one English hating monster, most of us aren't raving Jock ABE McTavishs and get slightly pissed off when lumped into a stereotype which ALWAYS gets banded about these threads

I'm a huge English rugby fan and im absolutely gutted, now I'm supporting Wales.
I remember the advert for the 6 nations that asked lots of people who they want to lose, they all said England.
I also remember a Nike (I think) advert that was released which said England had won the 6 nations when actually they hadn't, I remember hearing constant insults at the English for being so arrogant. It was coming from Northern Ireland Scotland and Wales.
Nike fucked up and released the wrong advert and I had to take shit from other rugby fans for that.

I'm Scottish and I don't know. I was in the pub last night and a guy beside me was cheering when points were scored against England so I asked him why and he said just cause! I don't get it at all.

England dominates the UK's cultural and economic life.

In order to maintain this status quo, occasionally, through inconsequential means like sport, the Scots and Welsh are given a chance to crow over their Anglo overlords. We still get to keep their oil and... whatever it is the Welsh have, though.

I don't think it's so much the English media in total over egging the England team as the London-based media. As we all know, London is (apparently) the centre of the universe and the rest of the UK - outside London, Wales, Scotland, N. Ireland are proles with grass growing out of our ears.

Plus it's the old double standard. Scottish nationalism - fine. Welsh nationalism - fine. English nationalism - not so fine.

The term Scotch-Irish is standard in the United States for the descendants of the Scots of Ulster who immigrated to America beginning in the 18th century.

This is changing more and more to Scots-Irish.

"The word scotch can be used to describe people too. Look it up"

Oh dear, I'm for you

SDT best to ignore those kind of comments, you know we don't all think like that

Some Scots are narrow minded bigots who can't see beyond the hem of their kilts.

Some Scots are pissed off to the back teeth about the 'UK' media (ie English) making out the the English team is the only one to watch in the UK, and any defeat is really down to luck or a bad day for England.

I'm from England originally, but many years in Scotland, and I notice both up here. Of course, there are also very many welcoming, friendly, open Scots - bit like myself

Behooven BUT WHAT ABOUT THE EGGS???

"Many Scottish people dislike the English.

In fact many people abroad dislike the English too although they are too thick skinned to notice.

Usually found by the bar boasting about their assets.

It is these type of reasons why my DBro after living there for 25 years is moving back to England from Scotland.

Ridiculous statement. Plus where are all these bars where English people are all talking about their assets.

Stupid statements that say more about you as a poster than they do about anyone else.

And the whisky!

To the person who said scotch can be used to describe people - here's good old Wikipedia to explain it in simple terms en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scotch_(adjective)

I agree with hackmum 's first paragraph. It was so bad that the Welsh started a colony in Argentina in the 19th century to preserve their culture. It's difficult to not feel a bit gleeful when a country that suppressed yours for centuries looses.

I knew there would be people criticising Wales for their reaction to the Wales v Australia game. That's not an 'Anyone But England' mentality - we wanted the Aussies to win because it meant we'd go through too.

Yes it did mean Wales would qualify, but to think there isn't an element of 'anyone but the English' mentality and to think it hasn't been going on for years is naive.

It was especially apparent when Eng got through to the final in 2003. My DSis at the time lived in Wales and there were people who wanted AUS to win because they were playing Eng.

It's difficult to not feel a bit gleeful when a country that suppressed yours for centuries looses.

Shouldn't you be a bit more grateful now that we're subsidising you?

I find being called 'scotch' insulting, it just gets my back right up. I don't hate england or the English people but what I do hate is how the uk is so Englandcentric. The word English is used to describe Britain or the U.K. which is so wrong. There are 4 countries and 3 of them might be small but should still be recognised. I watched a documentary about Andy Murray and an American guy kept calling him English he kept correcting him that he is not English he is Scottish/British but the guy didn't seem to get it.

To be fair though (imo) - its SE England-centric.

Shouldn't you be a bit grateful now that we're subsidising you?

Of course. You have clarified things so well.