To wonder why so many Scottish people a thrilled when England do badly at sport?

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I'm not bothered about the rugby at all personally, but this is irritating me. I have several Scottish friends, and their Facebook newsfeeds are full of gloating about England being knocked out of the world cup. It's a recurring theme with all sporting contests - mant Scottish people will support some random team from a country they've never heard of, if they're playing against England. I don't see the same with Wales and Ireland. Why is this? Is there that much resentment?

Also they commentators do it when it's noteven match thatEngland are playing in. We mute them or play a drinking game!

Fluffyyears in Rugby it's 2003 and a fucking drop goal. heard about that more in the last 2 weeks than about all the other RWC wins combined [sigh]

there is a simple answer to your question, op

THE MEDIA!!!

they focus so much on England, mostly the weather in the south but anything sport wise England is playing in, they will show on tv, but when Scotland does well in anything (and its not often), like Celtic or Rangers, it gets a tiny wee snippet at the end of the sports coverage...unless its Andy Murray, but he's British.

I'm Scottish and always support England (provided they're not playing Scotland) I'm sick to my back teeth of the anti English attitude some Scottish people have. It is certainly more prevalent since the referendum.

Well, on another thread the Scottish have been blamed yet again for the UK having the Tories in power despite us having significantly less than the population of London. so even if we all voted for Labour it would have made no difference to the result. When that was pointed out, it was apparently still our fault for the SNP posturing..... Personally I can't stand the SNP but it really is this sort of stuff that gets people's backs up. Including goady stuff like this thread - all the English would transfer their support to the Scots, Welsh or Irish??? really? Not in any encounters I've had, and why should they anyway - support your country and don't feel obliged to support anyone else. Also a lot of it is actually banter - maybe not so much since the insidious insular shite the SNP have spread.

I don't have anything against the English or Welsh or Irish, but the problem when it comes to sport is as was said above, the absolute arrogance of people and it's therefore nice to see that taken down a peg or two. Of course it is always someone else's fault, so apparently they now should have been given an easy group being the host nation as now they won't make so much money!!

I think it's the sheer arrogance of the English too. Last week I heard about a 20-minute discussion on the radio about the mistakes England made - until eventually someone said, quite cautiously, that Wales had played very well...

Also, I come from a very sporty, Scottish family with a very sporty English husband and kids. I can categorically state that no one transfers their allegiance to another home nations team once theirs is knocked out. There's absolutely no way my husband will be cheering on Scotland. He's English. Why would he?!

I'm Scottish and live in England, we would support England if we were actually bothered about sports which we're not. The majority of my Facebook is filled with Scottish people and only one person has commented that they are pleased England is out, I think it's just a sporting rivalry thing, that same person also openly admits Scotland are shit are sport too so perhaps it's jealousy I don't know.

most english sports fans will transfer theri allegiances to Wales or Scotland if England gets knocked out

I'm sorry that's just not true.
I'm not from GB but I live in Wales now and even I got pissed off when Chris knobhead Evans was playing the Fijian National Anthem on this BBC breakfast show the morning Wales played Fiji and encouraged everyone to support the Fiji team. England is so full of itself when it comes to sport, that is why everyone gloats when they get knocked out yet again.

It's not jealousy, we're shite and we know it. We don't care that we aren't in it. Our nation is tiny so we have a small populace and less of a pool of talent. We just like a party, Scotland wins we party, Scotland loses we party, Uruguay win we party, Uruguay lose we party, Mexico win....

It's definitely the smugness and air of entilement that surrounds any English sports team. We're pretty shite at a lot of sports so I do love seeing the English teams taken down a peg or two

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I think for the English rugby team, they are so smug and arrogant that it is easy to smile when they get their comeuppance.

Chris Evans did that?!
Really for most people is just a bit of a laugh, although if course some go to far. The media coverage is ott tbh.

One word - arrogance. England, mainly propagated by the media, think they have a devine right to win and when they don't, they get nasty. I got loads of stick before the start of the RWC about how Scotland wouldn't make it out of the pool stages. Then, last night, when I made a comment about Scotland still being in and England out, the vitriol and "don't be so harsh" comments were unbelievable. One very good friend has even declared allegiance to South Africa because a 'good' SA friend phoned her to commiserate after the match. It's not like someone died!

I can categorically state that no one transfers their allegiance to another home nations team once theirs is knocked out.

Totally agree. In fact, unless their husband/wife/best mate is from one of the other home nations I bet most are quietly pleased when the others are out, doesnt make you feel so bad about your teams exit then.

I can understand it, totally. I'm English, love Scots, Welsh, Irish in general, but when it comes to sports, there will always be a bit of rivalry.

Yaya fluffyears I hear ya!!! PERTYYYYY!

I also support England (when not playing Scotland!) as do many of my Scottish friends. However, when the commentator said last night after the Scottish game "It's time for the main event" i.e. Scotland game was irrelevant, we're all here for the England game - it's hard not to want to wipe their ignorance away.

And Helena is right - we are shite at most things. Except support. We have great support who deserve better.

Honestly, anything I hear about England being knocked out is just the usual sports banter. England supporters seem to take the sport and the resulting banter just a bit too seriously. Its in the Scottish genes to wind folk up.

Although Kathy I think if my kids were half Scottish, that would make me support Scotland after England.

It's not just the Scottish, it's everyone because England are insufferably arrogant when they win, and terrible sulkers when they lose. If you're a poor winner and a poor loser no one else supports you. simples. It's nonsense by the way that England fans switch allegiance to other home nation... but we really could care less!

I'm probably going to get flamed for this but (in my experience) the English commentators on sporting events always find a way to bring whatever the subject is back to England.

Even in finals when England have been knocked out in the first round and its two international teams playing.
It's always "If only England hadn't missed that penalty then they'd be here now.." NO no they wouldn't have as they have had to play 4 more rounds and win them before they'd have got to this stage.

There's rarely a mention of Scotland or Wales or NI and the 'what could have been??' type chat. It's always that England had the competition won before they'd even played a game. This applies to most sports really. It's incredibly arrogant of the commentators.

I think it's great when a nation gets behind their team and supports them and we should all hope that our team is going to win. I cannot stand the commentary though as it really does my head in. That and 1966 chat. {yawn}

This is why I hate international sports. It brings out the worst in people. I am avoiding facebook for a while as it is full of horrible hatred towards England and how gleeful all the non English people are that the england team did badly. It's horrible. I can't stand all the "anyone but England" shit, I hate all the hatred that sport brings out in people. Awful.

Wales played well and won a good game.

If other nationals of other nations want to be unsporting that is their prerogative

You see, I'd understand it if England always did well, that it would be nice to see them humbled for a change. For example, I'm happy to see Chelsea struggling a bit this season in the football, because last season they were apparently untouchable, and it all got every boring.

But that fact is that England aren't great at sport at all, they rarely win anything. Their failure is a fairly regular occurrence, so I don't understand why others nations enjoy it so much. And actually, rather than hype up England's brilliance, the pundits tend to go on about how awful they are.

Why does no one slate South Africa? They often win, the fans can be very loud and arrogant (nightmare on the train to Birmingham last weekend!), and as a nation I think they make England's oppressive political history look like childsplay!