To think tha more than one carb for dinner is unnecessary (and will probably make you fat if done regularly)

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Just back from a friends and had a very interesting debate over dinner.

We all had homemade pizza and garlic bread which was bloody lovely but I made a comment about having a "carb on carb" meal to be met with blank stares... I explained further and not one person seemed to think there was anything odd about eating so many carbs at once.

There were 6 of us and I am the only fat one.

Half of the group said they have more than one carb with dinner "quite often" examples were jacket spuds served with Lasagne, some type of bread with pasta dishes and curry with rice and Naan - one friend has very posh bread on the table with every evening meal

We're all in our 30's, mostly have kids and jobs so no time for excessive gym attendance.

AIBU to think they are all talking utter shite?

Oh thank goodness biwi showed up. 80schild made me and but I couldn't be bothered to find the facts to argue the point.

How lurkedforever1 - I interpret it the same way.

I also wonder about school meals at our school-pasta bolognase and garlic bread, followed by biscuits for pudding, being a typical one.

But again, small portions and kids (hopefully) getting more than enough exercise, so I don't see a problem there.

Are carbs and protien both layed down in the liver then?

well it crowds out any other food type, like fruit or vegetables.

Lurkededforever1
biwi most of what you say is incorrect. And that which is based on scientific research you are interpreting incorrectly.

Really? Please show me how I'm wrong.

Micha

No I'm not. But I've done an awful lot of reading over the last ten years or so. If you'd like to show me sciencey stuff that proves me wrong, please go ahead.

Slowlygoing carbs and protein aren't laid down in the liver. But they both ultimately end up with the body producing insulin, which results - depending on the amounts - in glucose being stored by the body as glycogen.

I've already said this once this week.

Carbs don't make you fat. Eating too much makes you fat.

So glad there are people on this thread who agree, where have you all been?!

And how do you know that Owlina? There is a lot of science to love that it's not the case!

biwi well for starters you could go off and see what our bodies do when they are in desperate need of energy and fat is the only available source. They don't start breaking down love handles. As a hint, lean muscle is protein and easier to metabolise than fat. And then do some research into how insufficient (for your individual body and activity) glucose effects production of insulin.

For the purpose of the average person dieting though, who may not wish to research scientific data, a look at any group undertaking decent exercise levels, with toned muscular bodies as their norm, and examining their diets is reasonably compelling. Or the fact during rationing, people were cramming down complex carbs, and yet were slim. Unlike all the carbs are evil crew, who are either overweight, or at best have slim silhouettes, but with untoned flab and the fitness levels more commonly associated with someone far more overweight.

What are 'carbs' anyway?
Foods (mostly) consist of protein, fat and carbohydrate in varying proportions. Bread and pasta aren't just 'carbs' , they are also protein and fat.
You probably don't want to eat too much of them because they are quite high in calories but there's no reason why you shouldn't eat them both at the same meal if you want to.

I totally agree Owlina

I honestly think that while some people are focusing/obsessing about carbs, they're distracting themselves from the real problem when it comes to weight.

And that problem is eating too much food.

I also agree with owlina. I see it as part of the special snowflake syndrome. 'My body can only function on the finest protein and leafy green vegetables'. Yeah right.
A few years ago I read a series on the diets of olympic athletes. Most of them ate completely normal food - sandwiches, meat and 2 veg, curry and rice, etc.
None of them seemed to obsess over the amount of protein and carbohydrates yet their bodies were like finely tuned machines.

Macaroni cheese pie with chips.

Lasagne, chips and garlic bread.

Curry and rice, poppadoms, nann bread.

Roast potatoes, mash potatoes, Yorkshire pudding and beef.

Chip sandwich.

Carbtastic.

And I'm not fat. And I eat massive portions.

In My Glotious Reign, using the word "carb" will be a capital offence.

I just think that in the future, people will look back on this decade and say "Oh yeah, remember when low carbing was a 'thing'?"

By then it will no doubt have been replaced by the next 'thing' that everyone will be following.

Meanwhile, relatively slim people will still be eating a little bit of everything and remaining relatively slim.

It is accepted as an alternative to carbohydrate on GCSE mark schemes. I don't like it...

one friend confessed to lasagne, chips and garlic bread on a semi regular basis. She is so slim as well.

Completely normal meal in our house. Most people in the world, including me, would not know what a carb was if it slapped them around the chops. Just don't eat a shit load of food and you won't be fat.

As I understand it, carbs need 3-4 times their own weight of water to process through the body.

So, if you eat 100g of carbs, there will be a temporary weight gain of 400g - which will soon disappear as the food is digested.

But it's not all that easy to eat that much carbohydrate in one meal - you have to work at it!

For dinner yesterday, I made a saucepanful of lentil and potato hash - came to about 250 carbs altogether. A quarter of this, with around 100g of bread - 45 carbs - I calculate came to about 110 carbs. But this is a bit extreme, and I doubt I'll have that again for a while.

'Twas bloody delicious, though!

I make "carb on carb" meals rare purely because the portions end up being big and usually involve less veggies (which technically have carbs too).

So instead of pizza and garlic bread, I'd usually do pizza and salad. Instead of curry rice and naan, I do curry rice and broccoli.

My mother makes comment on these types of meals (and my weight) which pisses me off no end as she just assumes that how I eat with guests is how I eat every day...which I dont. It's very judgey.

What about a chip butty? That's a fav in this house. Don't see anything wrong with it tbh

Back to the OP, I eat my carbs mostly from veg. If I ate bread and potatoes at most evening meals I would be fat. I am a size ten. It is a perfectly reasonable choice if you want to stay thin.

aye well that blows the 'you're fat because you eat too much food' theory out the water then! Haha this thread is hilarious!

no, I was just sharing my experience. It is true.

I eat an awful lot of calories, and I am still thin. And have GOT thin whilst eating butter, fat, olive oil in large quantities.

People eat potatoes at the same meal as lasagna?