To think tha more than one carb for dinner is unnecessary (and will probably make you fat if done regularly)

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Just back from a friends and had a very interesting debate over dinner.

We all had homemade pizza and garlic bread which was bloody lovely but I made a comment about having a "carb on carb" meal to be met with blank stares... I explained further and not one person seemed to think there was anything odd about eating so many carbs at once.

There were 6 of us and I am the only fat one.

Half of the group said they have more than one carb with dinner "quite often" examples were jacket spuds served with Lasagne, some type of bread with pasta dishes and curry with rice and Naan - one friend has very posh bread on the table with every evening meal

We're all in our 30's, mostly have kids and jobs so no time for excessive gym attendance.

AIBU to think they are all talking utter shite?

Bertrand - it's more that people with a long term healthy relationship with food don't need to think about it as a 'double carb' issue when offered pizza and garlic bread, they will just eat a bit less of each and have the same amount of food overall as they would have done if only one of each carb was offered. They don't have to stress about being "naughty" at one special meal out with friends as over the week, they'll average it out to not be a problem. It's the overweight and newly thinking about it who have to think about how to approach the meal.

But am also surprised by the numbers who serve additional veg on the side with lasagne, don't you put several different veg in it? I always think of lasagne as a whole meal. (Mine normally has 4 veg in it, plus the chopped tomatoes)

I put vegetables in my lasagne- but when feeding children I always serve a green vegetable with it- usually green beans and salad. I think you'd have to have a gigantic portion of a meat lasagne to get a couple of portions of veg out of it!

I have a friend who would bore on at us about double carving or whatever over a meal, lecturing about how bad it is blah blah, while eating say 4;or 5 large slices of pizza and droning on about not eating the garlic bread. I'd have 2 slices of each and try and change the subject...but who do you think is the one significantly overweight? Its not about how many different carbs but the overall amount.

Double carbs are very common around the works in traditional cuisines.

"don't you put several different veg in it?"

No, because I am a bit of a purist, so would only put tomatoes and onions in the ragu.

I love the contrast of a crisp salad with lasagne anyway.

Well my ragu is ridiculously traditional and has celery, carrot and mushroom in it. But not enough to constitute a portion once turned into lasagne. Hence vegetables on the side.

No, because I am a bit of a purist, so would only put tomatoes and onions in the ragu.

I don't think that's purist. But then we've already had that argument in the last week or so.

My meat lasagne is fairly traditional with minimal veg so I have salad with it. Bechemal sauce contains carbs though as do carrots so this single source of carb stuff really is bollocks. Just eat less

There's been stuff in the papers recently about how different people have different gut bacteria which means their ability to digest food differs. So, while it's true that everyone will lose weight if starved, it's not necessarily true that x amount of excess calories will affect two different people in the same way.

I think that in an experiment they got some people to lose weight by replacing their gut bacteria with some taken from people who had a better strain.

I think one article said someone was working on a pill to carry good bacteria through the stomach so they could survive and colonise the gut. (The method used in the experiment is probably not a practical approach for commercialisation, it involved putting someone else pooh up a fat persons arse.)

Disclaimer: this is all from memory so may be garbled, even if it wasn't bollocks in the first place.

Gut transit time makes a difference. If you just eat stodge don't exercise and aren't well hydrated you're more likely to get constipated. Lots of fibre and running speeds things up