To think a portion of fruit and veg isn't that big

[Rufusgy]

Constantly people say how the portion of fruit or veg needed is big and people don't often get one in a meal. I've just created a dish with at least four portions with my tomato pasta lunch.

200g of tomatoes
2 large onions
80g button mushrooms
100 mung bean fettuccine

Then also but not enough for a portion
2 cloves of garlic
Bunch of basil
1 tbps tumeric
1 TSP Kayne pepper
A pinch off kelp
Handful of k olives

Onions were saluted in water too, no fat here. All this fits in one bowl and was just right for my lunch.

If I saw that in my kitchen I'd assume the dog had been drinking pond water again.
If you like onions and mushrooms op, try my recipe.
Take 4 2 pieces of bread. Make cheese, onion and mushroom sandwich. For added vitamins, shallow fry in butter. If you're following a high protein diet, throw in some bacon. Serve with fermented grape juice. All of your nutritional needs in one meal.

ItsAllGoingToBeFine - I got them from Amazon on a really good deal. But you can get them from any health food shops - they ate expensive though -3 pounds a packet but that would feed a family of four as they are more filling than normal ones. Explore Asian is the brand.

Tumeric with a tomato base goes very well, balances out everything and goes with the hot pepper. It has many many health benefits but you do need to eat a lot of it. I double the usage in any curry's I cook.

Turmeric (not 'tumeric') + tomato = fine.
Turmeric + tomato + olives + basil = weird combo, half Indian/half Italian.

Tumeric with a tomato base goes very well, balances out everything and goes with the hot pepper. It has many many health benefits but you do need to eat a lot of it. I double the usage in any curry's I cook.

Correct it does have health benefits but you need to eat it with some sort of oil/ fat for your body to be able to digest it. And also cracked black pepper. Without the oil and pepper it's not bioavailable so you're not actually getting any benefits from it!

talk about a little knowledge can be dangerous. You don't need oil with tumeric, just a little fat. A few olives, cracked pepper plus the small amount of fat in beans, tomatoes etc insures great absorption.

Obviously on some low fat salads you'd mix with avocado or something. No oil needed.

I'm a mixture of European and Asian and I do just fine.

I said oil OR fat because it's fat soluble. And you need black pepper for the piperine (which helps absorption by about 1000% IIRC) but I'll happily stand corrected if 'Kayne' pepper also contains piperine. I don't profess to be the oracle on turmeric but I feed it to some of my animals so I've read up on it. Great, glad to hear it

If I saw that in my kitchen I'd assume the dog had been drinking pond water again.

OP I believe you've just provided a good example of orthorexia.

I love this thread especially the puddingy spring onions and the pepper with an over-inflated ego

What is a 'clean eater'?

Someone who likes to inform you of their tedious food choices. The venn diagram tends to overlap with 'pretentious instagrammers' and 'people who are quite gullible yet have no real clue about nutrition.' Paleo, for example, is fucking hilarious if you deconstruct it scientifically. Yes, eat more veg and less sugar, but don't dress it up as something pseudo scientific or any way akin to what people actually ate x thousand years back cos it's not. Populations back then ranged across the globe subsisting off pretty much anything they could get their hands on.

Incidentally, five a day is an arbitrary number. It was picked as being about as much as the Brits would tolerate. Some countries suggest nine, or at least one ot two every time you eat.

Humans are omnivores. Some populations eat an almost herbivorous diet and are healthy. Others eat an entirely meat/fish based diet and are healthy. Most authorities recognise that too much sugar or processed shit is bad for you, but that there's a wide range of what constitutes healthy diet. Go tell a native Alaskan hunter he needs to eat mung bean fettuccine for example.

Basic dietary advice for the western world hasn't really changed since your granny's day. Eat your greens, plenty of veg, not too much crap, move around a bit more.

Unfortunately that doesn't sell books, or allow an entire industry of borderline disordered eating women on t'interweb to spring up with their tedious yoga poses, inspirational memes and bonkers dietary advice.

Go tell a native Alaskan hunter he needs to eat mung bean fettuccine for example.

Yes because anyone that eats a truely "healthy meal" must have an eating disorder, according to Brit MN.

No, someone who insists on eating a tablespoon of turmeric (and two onions....) as part of a meal where it has no discernible place in either cuisine or flavour possibly has some eating issues.

All that sounds properly disgusting. I love veg and pasta, but Yuck!

I'm not convinced it is truly healthy, even after your explanation, rufus. And I have the background to know. But I posted earlier about it and, if the rest of your diet has a higher fat content, hey ho! Each to his/her own.

Personally I prefer turmeric as a flavouring, using it as a health supplement seems pointless. A balanced diet is, in my opinion far better, healthier and tastier (not to mention cheaper) than a 'clean' one - whether you are a Brit MNer or otherwise!

Oh thank God for Skiptonlass. One of the few sensible posts about food I've seen on Mumsnet recently.

My old lab did some of that research on turmeric /curcumin and GI tumours :)

None of us put an entire teaspoon full of turmeric in each meal.

What constitutes a healthy meal varies with place and time and genetic makeup

If you take our Alaskan hunter and put him on a cereal/veg based "super healthy" diet he's going to develop metabolic syndrome - we see this a lot with such populations, which have staggeringly high levels of type II diabetes when they adopt western diets.

If you take someone from a population where there are high levels of lactose intolerance and transplant them to Sweden, where people are generally very healthy but they live off cheese, milk, fish etc, they are going to be poorly.

My old lab did some of that research on turmeric /curcumin and GI tumours
Indeed. I work with people studying curcumin and breast cancers.

We don't eat it either. Well, we do in normal amounts.

And you got the measure wrong. Tablespoon, not teaspoon.

So eating turmeric where you don't feel it belongs means I must have an eating disorder lolz

People that resort to derogatory jibes to make a point, probably don't have a point.

Hey ho this is MN,you can't just say you don't like the same food as someone else. You have to be unpleasent and make it personal.

tablespoon??

(Reels in horror.)

Poor mice, they never did like that chow filled with curcumin. It smelt grim.

You only have to look at the Japanese post seclusion and American intervention to see the effects of changing a diet.

And as for Paleo, I have often sniggered, as SkiptonLass said, the reality of our ancester's eating habits really isn't one of mung bean munching and grass squeezing. Honest!

Oh, and we aren't the same creature, biologically. So their diet wouldn't be 'natural' to us, whatever 'natural' as a one size fits all diet is supposed to mean.

www.scientificamerican.com/article/why-paleo-diet-half-baked-how-hunter-gatherer-really-eat/

That might make some unclean eaters smile

So eating turmeric where you don't feel it belongs means I must have an eating disorder

No. Posting a smug picture of your "healthy" dinner, that comprises rather random ingredients with no apparent purpose other than as a "health supplement", means I think you "possibly ha[ve] some eating issues".

Orthorexia: an obsession with eating healthy foods.

As has been pointed out by various people, this meal probably wasn't as healthy as it could be anyway (you need fat).

Nothing useful to add, but I'm loving

'unami' (is that savoury flavour that overwhelms you in a giant wave of deliciousness?)
'Kanye pepper' (I think this is the OP's spice cupboard)
and 'saluting' onions in water.

Where can I get mushroom fettucine from?

I meant bloody mungbean.