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Calling someone a 4x4 is as bad as racism

145 replies

Rufusgy · 13/09/2015 13:08

Cbb related Blush but I really don't see why this is acceptable at all. Should be classified as bad as many other 'isms' that have a zero tolerance in society.

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thehypocritesoaf · 13/09/2015 14:18

Jude law has been taken advantage of by several women?

Er- In what way exactly? I have never read anywhere that Jude law did not know the facts of life.

FayKorgasm · 13/09/2015 14:22

Vitriol not vitiligo. I hate this phoneAngry

Oh yes the poor men can't help it when these Sperm hungry Jezabels drop their knickers. Poor loves. Hmm

LookAtAllThesePhucksIGive · 13/09/2015 14:22

Oh please. Jude is a man in his 40's. If he doesn't know the facts of life by now he never will.

FayKorgasm · 13/09/2015 14:23

Poor Jude, he just can't figure out where all these children are coming from.

Holowiwi · 13/09/2015 14:31

How can 4x4 be as bad as racism?
People have no say about their race and they will forever be judged based on their race the moment they are born. When the mother goes to a interview who knows she has kids with 4 different dads, if she walks down the street no one will know about her home life. Even if she had the kids with her unless the dads have different ethic backgrounds then no one will know. The only people who would judge someone with 4 by 4 would be people who know her. Whereas a persons race is there for everyone to see.

If you said sexism is as bad as racism then i would agree however the 4 x 4 insult is based on the persons choices. Mainly because there would possibly be a disruptive home for the children. Some seeing their dads some not. Different men coming and going etc. Don't get me wrong it is a nasty insult but it is one of many out there.

And lets be honest if someone came on the relationship board and said there is a man who has asked her out but he has 4 kids all by different women, she would be told to run a mile.

lushilaoshi · 13/09/2015 14:31

Fay you made me laugh - 'sperm hungry Jezebels'.

Maybe that's it: he was never given the birds and bees talk...

Osolea · 13/09/2015 14:33

It's ridiculous to say that it's as bad as racism, and if don't agree that it's misogyny.

It is fair to judge people based on the choices they have made in their lives and the things they have done. It is not fair to judge someone by their skin colour which was pre determined before they were born.

If the term is used descriptively, then it's just an accurate description. If it's used in a nasty way, then it's nasty.

OurBlanche · 13/09/2015 14:34

OK, I got the CBB thing now, hey ho! They can insult each other all they like. Who cares? They are all, without exception, narcissistic pillocks. And I say that as someone who doesn't watch it and has no idea who is currently in it. Yet I know there is 0% chance I am wrong Smile

But the only person I know in real life being referred to as a 4x4 was a bloke, way back in the 90s. He is now more of a dead beat, 6-5 Special.

So, it isn't new and it isn't misogynistic. So it's all much of a nothing, really!

travellinglighter · 13/09/2015 14:34

To be honest, I used to work with a man who was proud of the number of kids he had by different women, none of whom he was supporting. I despised him but my male colleagues were very tolerant of his little indiscretions. He came to me a few years ago asking if I knew of any work for him. The word ??No?? sprang to my lips surprisingly easily.

lushilaoshi · 13/09/2015 14:39

Hmm, just looked up Jude Law: he actually has five kids by three different women. Three with his ex wife Sadie Frost, and two with random flings. I feel like one kid from a random fling is just carelessness, but two looks like... well I don't know what. Could just be a coincidence.

FayKorgasm · 13/09/2015 14:46

lush you're going to have to tell him. When his willy is fizzy he needs a cold shower no matter what.

lushilaoshi · 13/09/2015 14:48

Yes, I think I do Fay. If I don't, then who will...?

FayKorgasm · 13/09/2015 14:48

I never thought I would be discussing Jude Laws philandering when I am supposed to be working but there you go. That's what my manager gets for going home with the office key.

FayKorgasm · 13/09/2015 14:50

lush he will merely go through life waving his wandering willy about with no thought to the havoc it is causing. The wily thing.

evilcherub · 13/09/2015 14:51

Lol, no. Only on Mumsnet!

lougle · 13/09/2015 14:55

An ism is an ism because it only applies to people with particular characteristics which they can't control. E.g. racism, sexism, etc.

A '4x4' describes any woman who chooses to procreate with 4 men. It doesn't apply to any one race of woman. It isn't an ism.

FayKorgasm · 13/09/2015 14:59

You contradicted yourself there lougle. Women cannot control the fact that they are women and as you said the term 4X4 describes any woman who chooses to procreate with 4 men then the term is in itself sexism.

TheMirrorOfErised · 13/09/2015 15:21

I was married a lot of years ago to an arsehole. Fast forward 15+ years, my XH has 8 DCs by 5 women (none with me, thank God).
I also know a woman who has 3 DCs by 3 men.
My XH doesn't see 7 of his DC's, and supports none.
The woman I know works full time, loves and looks after her DCs, and is a good Mum all round.

But guess who gets judged more harshly?

OurBlanche · 13/09/2015 15:25

But guess who gets judged more harshly?

In the, apparently odd, world I live in? Your ex, without a doubt.

driverdontstopatall · 13/09/2015 15:32

Well its abit pot calling the kettle black if two pornstars are implying she's a slag for having 4 kids with different dads.

CharlotteQ · 13/09/2015 15:33

Having four children by four different men is in my opinion, shocking! Now I'm in no way saying it's ok to call someone a 4 x 4 but seriously, what kind of woman allows herself to become pregnant so many times with so many men. It's distasteful, and if I'm being honest it's not fair on the poor children involved, having multiple fathers, grandparents, aunts, uncles etc, I imagine it would be quite confusing.

I do understand that relationships breakdown and that later down the line a new couple will meet and they will maybe want to go on and have a child together, this is perfectly understandable and in general would be deemed by society to be acceptable. But for a woman to go on and keep getting pregnant by different men and not learning her lesson is I'm afraid, not acceptable.

FayKorgasm · 13/09/2015 15:41

What's the quota for failed relationships? Three strikes and you're out?

BathshebaDarkstone · 13/09/2015 15:46

I'm a 4x3, it doesn't have quite the same ring to it, does it? Grin It wasn't a life choice in my case, one relationship died, the second was an arsehole. Hmm

CharlotteQ · 13/09/2015 15:51

No not at all, but who says that a woman HAS to become pregnant by each man she starts a relationship with? I've had a few relationships, serious and not so serious, before I met my dh, and I made a conscious choice not to have children with any of them, and yes, I realise that contraception isn't 100% effective but in the case of the women I know who have multiple children to multiple men, contraception was most likely never used in the first place!

SoupDragon · 13/09/2015 15:52

I'm a 3x1. I think that makes me a plank.