Well, there we have it: Jeremy Corbyn has just been announced the next Labour Leader

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With 59% of the vote (first round).

I've just been following the live BBC broadcast and just wanted them to get on with it.

No doubt people on both sides of the political spectrum will be overjoyed with the result.

I don't think he needs media training and I type as someone who has provided media training to high profile figures The type of media training provided by political parties is all about soundbites and staying on message. A lot of people voted for JC because they believed in him. They thought he had integrity and that he answered questions honestly. Political media training doesn't particularly value any of those traits. He would lose a big part of his appeal.

And at the idea that Farage hasn't had media training!

Indeed. We need to ensure the cocooned Left continues to believe he is the bee's knees so that come 5 years' time the Tories get in again,.

'I don't think he needs media training'

Yes I agree. Or maybe he needs to be the new trainer!

He's been around a long time and knows the crack. The Media behaves pretty badly these days and is not the spokesperson for the public like it once was. So he doesn't need to doff his cap.

I can't bear the sight of politicians sucking up to media pundits. The Thick Of It had it about right.

Just read in the DM he is going to be a problem at all the meetings security wise he now has access too.

Like MI5/6 etc normally wouldn't allow him in.

Its going to be a huge headache for them, and what a time to have such a headache

Poor old MI5 / 6. It's not like we live in a parliamentary democracy or anything...

Corbyn might be able to get votes from the young who do not know what real Labour was like in the 70s but remember my generation who do far out number any other generation. Any politician that thinks the unions need more power needs to take on board the fact that a generation of people remember the last time they were given more power.

I agree oliversmumsarmy. When I saw McCluskey and his horrible whiskery face grinning like an idiot I thought 'Oh here we go - a return to bad old Labour and the days of strikes and unions holding the country to ransom'. I was only a small child in the 1970s, but I remember the 3-day week and the rubbish piling up in the street because all the bin men were out on strike. How anyone can want to return to that I don't know, but hopefully there are enough of us alive today who would vote against anything likely to lead to that.

With regard to the Tories, no they're not panicking. Its just business as usual. Only four months ago they were elected with a parliamentary majority and Labour were crushed. If they're clever they can now claim that middle ground abandoned by Labour and gain themselves a bunch of new voters. Because I don't believe there is this huge block of socialist voters in England any more. They're very vocal, as minorities tend to be, but lets not forget that only 250,000 people voted for JC as leader of the Labour party. There are 64 million people in this country. Not all are voters, granted, but quarter of a million people nationwide? That's nothing.

I think the next 4 years PMQ's will be interesting that's for sure. He won't be in charge or labour by the time the next election comes. There will be a backbench revolt by then!

www.dailymail.co.uk/debate/article-3233299/MAX-HASTINGS-trust-Jeremy-Corbyn-security.html

interesting article

I suspect that a lot of 'soft Cons' will go back to the Lib Dems. Farron is likeable (not liked by me, but hey ho).

Oh good Lord

what a joyless ***

1979 Fed up with coming second to politics, his habit of eating cold baked beans from the tin and never once being taken out for dinner, Jane Chapman left Corbyn. ??The problem is that his politics are to the exclusion of other kinds of human activities, such as going out for a meal, to the cinema or buying clothes,?? she said recently. However, Mr Corbyn did have some hobbies outside politics, including making jam with the fruit grown on his allotment, an interest in manhole covers (??I take pictures of them. People think it??s a little odd but there we are,??) and reading the poetry of WB Yeats. According to the Financial Times, the Arsenal fan is a member of the All-Party Parliamentary Group for Cheese and a ??borderline trainspotter??.

And he kept trim thanks to cricket, running and cycling. Indeed, he doesn??t own a car.

Read more: www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3233211/Making-Comrade-Corbyn-QUENTIN-LETTS-explains-Labour-leader-went-prep-school-boy-raised-manor-house-rich-bashing-friend-terrorists.html#ixzz3licyYVNg
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I wonder how long it will take for some to feel JC has sold them out...

Many who backed him appear to be naively idealists for whom compromise is an ugly word, yet I believe he already has been called hypocritical for agreeing to serve on the Privy Council, and others alluding to sexism in his choice of Cabinet.

It's not only those to the right of him he needs to be concerned about, but those on his extreme fringe aren't known for their pragmatism. I predict that before the month is out, some on the far left will be denouncing his leadership as a trecherous sell-out, probably for failing to lead the masses in the storming of Downing Street or something equally as criminal.

'alluding to sexism in his choice of Cabinet.'

Flash - how do you mean sexist??

Hasn't he got more women than men in his cabinet

Nothing joyless about jam and WB Yeats!

Labour loses whether Corbyn remains at the helm or not I believe.

If he remains, well, there's no way the country will vote in a Corbyn administration, however much the far left have convinced themselves that their time is now.

If he goes, and a more electable leader is appointed, Labour will be at war with itself that will be every bit as bad, if not worse, than the 80s.

The Lib Dems might do well as a result of this if they play a canny game.... Yes, they're down, but not quite out, and we've all seen how quickly political forces can emerge from nowhere if the circumstances are right! If not the Lib Dems, then who else will occupy the gulf between the Tories and Labour re-born?

The three day week was under a Conservative Government, but don't let that spoil the 'lets blame Labour for everything' story.

I don't know whether people will go back to the Lib Dems - for a lot of people they blew it when going into coalition with the Conservatives, and I think it might need a new generation to come up before they are forgiven.

Some Greens I know, who were ex-Labour, are currently having a re-think as to whether to go back to them.

JC sounds dreadful in any interview where he's challenged. He doesn't have to speak to the media but he needs to learn to dismiss them in a polite way that doesn't make it look like he's got something to hide.

Does the DailyMail also mention that Jane Chapman voted for JC to be leader of the Labour party and is still friends with him? Or does it just focus on the horror of two people (who met as students) eating baked beans? tbh I'm not sure any of that is relevant unless you plan to marry him and if that's your aim, I imagine his current wife is more of an obstacle than his liking for cold baked beans.

There was an interesting quote from the new shadow Chancellor on the BBC. He was being asked about women not being given the 'top roles' in the shadow cabinet and he said (I'm paraphrasing) they don't consider the traditional top roles to still be the top roles in the cabinet as they gained prominence in the days of the empire and actually the issues that affect people every day are health and education, and women were appointed to those portfolios.

'alluding to sexism in his choice of Cabinet.' Flash - how do you mean sexist??

There's quite a bit of comment if you look for it. None of the 'big four' roles went to a woman for instance.

Flash - more women than men in his cabinet! Quite unheard of that.

Education is a pretty big role.

It's interesting reading the different media. The BBC is still being subtly anti-Corbyn. Yet I'm guessing he'll probably be a supporter of maintaining a public broadcaster. I wonder how long before their reporting starts to take that into account and they shift to even impartial.

FWIW I've not voted Labour for years and it will take much more than 2 days of JC for me to consider returning to the party but I hate the biased news reporting; the steady drip of opinionated nonsense dressed up as fact looking at you Daily Mail and the Telegraph and the spurious facts being presented by Tory HO and their supporters, not to mention the internal anti-briefings being given by Labour MPs and former grandees. It will be amazing if JC manages to overcome all of that to have a fair chance of trying to pull the Labour party into some kind of cohesive unit.

I don't know whether people will go back to the Lib Dems - for a lot of people they blew it when going into coalition with the Conservatives, and I think it might need a new generation to come up before they are forgiven.

I would imagine those who thought they 'blew it' were mainly the lefties (who were attracted by their anti-war/pro-student position) for whom Labour is now their obvious home... It was the 'middle England' who voted Tory out of fear in 2015, but struggle with various Tory policies, and those who voted Labour in 2015. who are naturally Blairite and repelled by Corbyn but aren't tribally loyal to Labour.

We'll see though.... but there is a vast void now in politics needing to be filled with Corbyn's rise and the Lib Dem demise... Labour clearly won't fill it any time soon, but the Lib Dems will most definitely want to, and it's their golden opportunity to get back especially as they now they no longer have Clegg as their leader

It was always Lib Dem policy during campaigns (which they excelled at) to ruthlessly target the soft Con vote. That soft vote apparently swung back to the Cons in May.

But the Lib dems will have a mountain to climb over tuition fees. They would need to u-turn on their u-turn to match Corbyn's stance.