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Well, there we have it: Jeremy Corbyn has just been announced the next Labour Leader

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InTheBox · 12/09/2015 11:46

With 59% of the vote (first round).

I've just been following the live BBC broadcast and just wanted them to get on with it.

No doubt people on both sides of the political spectrum will be overjoyed with the result.

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Welshwabbit · 12/09/2015 21:39

X - post, MajesticWhine!

claig · 12/09/2015 21:45

'It's easy to have principles and integrity when you don't have to persuade anyone who doesn't agree with you.'

They interviewed Prescott and Prescott had worked on some Parliamentary Committee or other with Corbyn and he said that Corbyn never tried to impose his views, he has a way of bringing forth a consensus. Livingstone said the same. Corbyn has not swapped insults with the other Labour candidates or bigwigs like Blair. His victory speech was very good considering all the plotters in the audience. He is above all the crap and personal advancement because he cares about politics, policies, the people and the Labour Party and has fought for his principles all his life to the detriment of some of his marriages even.

He is bound to have weaknesses and we will find out about them soon. But so far, he looks like he could beat the Tories in a landslide just as he has beaten the Blairites (the Tory-lites) in a landlside.

funnyperson · 12/09/2015 21:45

I think this is going to be very interesting
I think Corbyn will lead an articulate and important opposition and promote important parliamentary debate on real issues affecting ordinary people
He is the right man for this time and a great relief to listen to in an increasingly mad world.
Whether he gets as far as the next election is uncertain. But I don't think that is the current issue at all.

squoosh · 12/09/2015 21:49

Mainstream English politics has needed a rocket up its arse for a long time.

autumnintheair · 12/09/2015 21:50

he has a selfless quality of integrity

Yes in many areas but therein lies the crux, not so selfless when it came to his own son...willing to sacrifice his son and his marriage..

It was not even a private school which is a step further IMHO but grammar.

I admire his ability to stand alone and challenge but I could never support someone who is soft on ISIS and so on.

autumnintheair · 12/09/2015 21:51

and has fought for his principles all his life to the detriment of some of his marriages even.* Grin

loving how you just spun the new light on his marriage break down into positive.

claig · 12/09/2015 21:53

autumn, I agree about the son issue, but I don't believe the way the media reported it. I think his brother, Piers, tweeted something about it saying there was more to it but I can't find it on google.

I don't think he is soft on Isis. He wants all countries to unite against them and end the funding and backing of Isis and end their ability to sell oil to whoever is buying it off them.

SwedishEdith · 12/09/2015 21:55

Mainstream English politics has needed a rocket up its arse for a long time.

Well, exactly. There was much talk after the Scottish referendum about why couldn't the rest of the UK have straight-talking, passionate politicians like Salmond and Sturgeon. That's also largely Farage's appeal. And it's that that accounts for Corbyn's success today. How it's all going to play out long-term is going to be very interesting but it might be very refreshing.

claig · 12/09/2015 21:56

'loving how you just spun the new light on his marriage break down into positive.'

I was referring to his first wife, who says he is a lovely guy but he was obsessed with politics and spent all his time working on it in council offices etc instead of going out for a break with his wife. That is how he is. We know he is a political nut and we know he believes in some things many of us don't believe in, but we don't care because we know he is for real and is for the people.

mayfly66 · 12/09/2015 22:15

Mainstream English politics has needed a rocket up its arse for a long time

And do you think the newly-elected leader of a minority party is likely to attract the votes of those who could not even bring themselves to vote for Ed Miliband? He cannot change anything leading a minority opposition which itself is highly likely to fragment under his leadership.

Corbyn will lead a divided Labour Party and singularly fails to appreciate the realpolitik of British society. The majority of people in the UK have rejected Socialism in several elections in the last 30 years because they aspire to a more prosperous life. Lower taxes and lower Govt spending increase the likelihood of that happening - not the tax and spend regime that Corbyn would seek to preside over.

I dislike his politics but he is sincere, honest and consistent. Unfortunately for him and the Labour Party is he misguided and utterly unelectable as a PM.

Delude yourself otherwise if you wish.

squoosh · 12/09/2015 22:18

Delude yourself otherwise if you wish.

Most generous of you.

mayfly66 · 12/09/2015 22:22

My opinion, obviously, squoosh. Not intended to be generous or miserly merely an opinion.

Happy to hear yours in response the points I raised.

After all, isn't that what the forum is for...?

Garrick · 12/09/2015 22:24

Yeah. I don't want to marry the man, I want him to act on his principles and keep encouraging people to work together for everyone's sakes.

I think a rock-solid political campaigner must inevitably make a lousy partner by most people's standards. He's clearly a good father, though - his son's right with him - and that unfashionable thing, a good man.

You're spot on about his joining the march today, Claig. And you reminded me of this picture!

Well, there we have it: Jeremy Corbyn has just been announced the next Labour Leader
squoosh · 12/09/2015 22:25

Umm yes, that is indeed what the forum is for. I don't think I suggested otherwise. I merely responded to your final sentence which came across to me as being rather patronising in tone.

AvaCrowder · 12/09/2015 22:26

Claig hello. Are you happy about JC? I don't understand unless I've muddled you up, weren't you all for UKIP at the last election? The ideals are so different, how do you do that? Or do you just hate the tories?

BettyTurpinsHotpot · 12/09/2015 22:27

Did Jeremy write his own sign? Nice handwriting!

mayfly66 · 12/09/2015 22:30

Yes, on reflection perhaps it was unintentionally patronising Squoosh.

Still, no worse than being deliberately sarcastic?

KanyeWestPresidentForLife · 12/09/2015 22:31

I didn't know that about his son's schooling. I'm never going to vote for the man but I have to say I really respect him for doing that. When you have Harman, Abbott, Blair et al preaching about comprehensives but not practicing what they preach it makes a nice change.

AvaCrowder · 12/09/2015 22:31

I think as a proper left winger he could have everybody who works for the NHS or in state schools support and they actually make up a huge part of the electorate.

claig · 12/09/2015 22:32

'Claig hello. Are you happy about JC? I don't understand unless I've muddled you up, weren't you all for UKIP at the last election? The ideals are so different, how do you do that? Or do you just hate the tories?'

I am very happy and may well vote Labour. I still prefer Farage as I think he is more common sense, but I think Corbyn is more likely to win and change the country for the better and do more than Farage can do i.e. renationalise, create a housebuilding scheme, free childcare, scrap all tuition fees, invest in manufacturing etc etc

To me, Farage and Corbyn represent the same thing - the people vs the elites. I am for anyone who is on the side of the people and Corbyn has the best chance of bringing change.

squoosh · 12/09/2015 22:33

Still, no worse than being deliberately sarcastic?

No, probably no worse! Grin

NapoleonsNose · 12/09/2015 22:37

Late to the thread, but I'm fucking delighted Jeremy won:)

mayfly66 · 12/09/2015 22:37

why couldn't the rest of the UK have straight-talking, passionate politicians like Salmond and Sturgeon. That's also largely Farage's appeal.

All three of whom have failed to persuade their respective electorates at key times: the SNP's failure to achieve the vote for devolution and Farage in the last UK parliamentary election.

Straight-talking is an admirable quality but it doesn't win elections if it doesn't chime with what the electorate wants to hear.

squoosh · 12/09/2015 22:41

But it appears that support for the SNP only continues to grow and the likelihood of there being another independence referendum in the next ten years, and the outcome being a Yes vote seems increasingly likely.

mayfly66 · 12/09/2015 22:47

Anecdotally, Squoosh the growth in SNP support to which you refer does indeed appear to be the case. Do you not however find it is odd as I do that opinion pollsters seem to produce some wildly inaccurate predictions when votes are actually cast? The last UK election was the most recent but by no means only such example?