"Mumsnet deserves it" blog

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I'd like to know who the moderators are.

Get the feeling that sometimes people are bit over-invested.

I think she needs to step away from the Internet for a while, not just MN.

I brought snacks.

I have no skin in this game, I'm not a blogger, I'm not an established mumsnetter (whatever that means) and I have now read the blog post and the various threads referred too (kids are with their Granny and it's raining and I'm bored). So all that being said I think you overreacted to the fact that other posters disagreed with you 20something and you've been nursing a grudge ever since. You don't come out of the 16 kids and counting thread smelling of roses, from your initial post that some picked on, to your subsequent reponses and labelling posters nutters and mentalists. Yes some of the posts aimed at you weren't nice and deserved to be deleted or questioned but you weren't blameless either.

To be honest you remind me of a former friend of mine who is incredibly defensive, she won't let anything go, demands her right to defend herself to every perceived slight and to be honest is quite exhausting to be around. She is also frequently wrong as she sees offensive were none is intended, is distinctly humourless and never sees her own contribution to a situation. You can see why is describe her as a former friend. I'm not the only one, she is very hard work.

I think nursing this grudge against mumsnet isn't very healthy, particularly as you won't (can't?) see how your own behaviour contributed.

Excuse the typos, I had very little sleep last night

There are cliques on here, and bullies, and sometimes a mob mentality.

But mn can also be the best, most supportive place ever.

But each of those things are because it's made up of individuals. And in life, you get twats, and lovely people, and funny people, and sad people, and horrible people. So really MN is just a representation of life. You really can't lump "us" all in together - different posts will get different responses purely because different people read them and have different views.

The main thing though, is that it's not forced upon you as HAVING to be used. You are very welcome to leave if you don't like it. But don't blame MN users for being horrible to you - there should come a point where you ask yourself "if everyone is telling me I'm acting like a twat, is it possible that I might be acting like one?"

For someone who has such a thick skin, you seem to be taking things very personally and be very sensitive

Everybody would be an awful lot happier if we just all came to terms with the fact that the internet is just a digitally connected series of arseholes, dickheads and funny cat pictures.

Jeez, what a drama llama!

I rarely read blogs as I consider most of them to be utter shite. Some more so than others obviously.

I do love the expression ODFOD though. Seems quite apt here.

You know, this is the last thing I'm saying anything on this because I think I'd have the same effect on getting through to you the reasons behind my post if I smacked my head on a brick wall.

How dare you tell me I think rape is OK? How up your own backsides do you want to be to liken a horrifically violent act which will emotionally and physically scar a person for years (btw, not just woman who are raped, there is male rape as well which is just as bad) is in anyway similar to a few passwords being pinched and bloody website going offline? I cannot believe supposedly intelligent adults would come out with such a disgusting statement. Its a website. Its not a human person being attacked. Christ. I cannot believe I've even had to say that.

I have tirelessly campaigned with a friend on the lack of support for rape victims. She was raped by four guys. She got no help at all in her area, and asked me, after the case came to court to help her set up web support for people like her. I have campaigned against Amazon over pro rape T-shirts, likewise against Facebook for allowing pro rape groups to continue to stay online under their banner.

I went up against Amazon over their Pedophilia guide book.
And I'm fine about rape am I?

This is a bloody website. Websites get hacked all the time.

I have never condoned what they did, in fact I have said over and over that I don't.

But I am far from the only person who has ever voiced the opinion that MN is poorly managed and certain members are allowed to deliberately belittle, bitch and be downright despicable just because they don't like a comment made.

I am not even going to bother trying to have an intelligent discussion with people who will never see what is actually written, will make up malicious bull about me, purely because I wont give in and say "oh yes MN trolls you are right, you are all wonderful shining examples of non bitchiness in women, wait whilst I flog myself and seek forgiveness".

Now please, feel free to spread your crap where you like. My blog, my rules, my right to an opinion.

Nothing changes here.

QED

How dare you tell me I think rape is OK?
Nobody did.

Its not a human person being attacked.
Justine and her family?
The family of the other mumsnetter?
One wonders how they and their partners/children are dealing with that? A mumsnetters husband was handcuffed.

*mumsnetter's husband.
Apologies.

Oh, and still no apology for the other comments.

Indeed vindscreenviper some people seem to find it nigh on impossible to think that they are in any way to blame for others finding their posts objectionable. Lots of use of 'bullies', claims of being 'attacked' but no awareness of their own less than exemplary contributions.

"How dare you tell me I think rape is OK?"

Oh deary me. No need to throw your straw men out of the pram. This is a calm, level-headed conversation with the aim of helping you see why your position ("MN brought this on to itself because some MNers are not nice to others") is wrong.

The point of the rape analogy which you have spectacularly missed is that in both, it is wrong to excuse the criminal act with some behavior of the victim.

"How up your own backsides do you want to be"

I think it's plain for all to see who is up her own backside

I think it's a fair point that comparing the hack to rape is a bit distasteful. However I don't think it extended as far as saying you didn't care about rape which both makes the comparison and the complaint of misrepresentation a bit meaningless.

Anyway.

I have never found Mumsnet anti-blogger. I tend to avoid the feminist/politics ones because they are dull and predictable and follow a well trodden path rarely straying from a set of conventions.

I'm not keen on the diary style ones either.

But what I do really like are the ones which are more practical or inspirational for activities. Like things to do with children, cooking, exercise, handicraft. Things which suggest things to do rather than telling me what to think or about themselves.

There are a few bloggers in the MN network who do that really well.

Apology equals admission of guilt.

She won't.

This is about how bad WE are, she won't be able to blog about this and further her victim persona if she admits to her own poor behavior.

It's far to easy too lock on something she didn't say and twist it into being an attack.

I just hope some of her 'following' with mental health issues don't read the comments she posted.

Jesus, did some poor sod actually get cuffed? God I hope there were no little kids there.

Nacho's? Nachos anyone?

Yes Lazy, took away too.

Kids had to be woken up and questioned.

Well, I'm buggered if the real EKL signs up to MN!

20something, I had a lot of sympathy for you after reading the earlier responses to this thread as not only did you appear to have a bad experience with MN, but it's affected you so much that not only have you written off the whole site over the actions of very few posters, but you're also writing about it years later and coming back to see if people are writing about you.

But then I saw that this bullying wasn't actually mumsnet-specific and that you seemed to expect them to give you a poster's personal information without the police being involved. If HQ routinely gave out users' details because someone had claimed they were victims of cyber bullying elsewhere, there would be a means for abusive exes to get information about people who'd fled them. It can't happen in the absence of police involvement.

(btw, not just woman who are raped, there is male rape as well which is just as bad)

Oh is there? I'd never heard of that.

This really pisses me off. Writing stuff like that as though you're the first person to know about it, and we're all as thick as shit.

It's the way you try to be clever and incisive in your writing but a lot of the stuff you say sounds either unsubstantiated or just old.

When I read a blog I expect to be told something I didn't know. Inspired, influenced, educated.

Reading yours told me absolutely nothing.

Op, have you written a blog on Josh Duggar cheating on Anna?

@EmpressKnowsWhereHerTowelIs

Fuck yes, I'd forgotten about Colandular. Wonder if HQ thought of that?

Sorry to barge in but we wanted to say that we had clocked this a while ago, thank you.

Hm...

Seems she's not just telling flat out lies in her blog comments to make MN look like a horrible site.

I've asked for proof but I doubt I'll get any.