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AIBU, DH colleague at work

145 replies

Freakingin · 16/08/2015 18:11

NC - sorry just read back over this and it is so long. so thanks for reading it.

My DH has a potential major confidential career change coming up, he doesn't want even a whisper to get out about it, so we have only told two close friends about his plans.

Today he told me that X colleague (woman at work) has given him a suggestion about this situation. I was furious that he told someone in work and also that he told her, he says he trusts her and that she is a friend.

Anyway, we get into a huge argument about it, she is a junior colleague and I just don't get that he is so close to her that he could tell her this very specific information. I told him that I don't and never will approve of that kind of friendship with a female work colleague, He says that I cannot dictate who he is friends with, that I am unreasonable and that the problem is ME, because I have an unjustified issue with this woman.

The fact is, I do have an issue with this 'friendship', about 3 years ago there was an office party, which was loads of fun, DH and I left at the end of the night to go home, other people ended up going to a party. We were at home in bed, DH drunk and out cold, and about 4am his phone pings with a text message from X, asking him where he is, nothing inappropriate, just 'where are you, are you coming?'

I thought it was utterly inappropriate, 4 am, we are home, how could she feel that she could text him at all. Next day I tell DH about the text and that I thought it was inappropriate that she could feel free to text him in the middle of the night, what kind of work relationship did they have that this was okay to her. Anyway, he defended it, telling me I was making a big thing out of nothing, wasn't inappropriate at all, they are friends, blah blah blah.

DH is senior to her by very many levels. When I was working there is no way I would have even considered texting one of the senior exec's outside of working hours. let alone in the middle of the night. I will never be convinced that I was unreasonable to be mightly pissed off.

Over the past few years, I realise they talk to each other about personal stuff, i.e. one of our kids are sick and he says X gave me the name of this Dr. to consult. X and her DH are buying a business and he looked over the business plan for her. He praises how well she does her job and that she should be promoted etc etc. The hackles on my neck raise whenever she is mentioned, but for the most part I don't say anything. Although there was another blow up about something I felt was inappropriate (can't for the life of me remember now what it was !) on many levels.

Today when I blew up, I said something about them both having lunch together alone (I just threw it in there, didn't have a clue if he lunched with her alone or not) and he said ' I have probably only had lunch alone with her on two occasions, the rest of the time we have been with colleagues '. Well fuck me then !

At the end of the day, I don't think they are having an affair, but I really believe he confides in her and she confides in him.

There was a point in the past few years where our relationship was really rocky, he was going out 3 or 4 nights a week, business meals or out with mates to 'blow off steam'. Business meals which he would not get home from until 2 or 3 am. (I would be invited, but can't leave the kids with a babysitter every night of the week ! ).

He said I was being unreasonable and distrusting, that I was always welcome to come along but I didn't want to, although I would go sometimes, I was really close to leaving him at that time point, it was pretty ugly in our relationship during that period, but we managed to pull back from the brink and things have been going well. She probably knows all about that time too, ugh !

If you have read to this point, am I being unreasonable to detest that he has this friendship with this woman? AIBU to view this as a closer than normal work colleague relationship? I am beginning to wonder now if he had a fling with her, or if he fancies her and would if given the opportunity (although I would hope he would not blow his career for an office fling)

I am away at the moment, so we had the argument on the phone and he has not called back, probably gone out to drown his sorrows.

OP posts:
clam · 16/08/2015 23:31

What was his motivation for confiding in her about his career move?

Lavenderice · 16/08/2015 23:45

Personally I think you're completely unreasonable and controlling but the crux of the matter here is that you do not trust your husband, which must make for an awful relationship for both of you, you need to do something about it

GreenTee · 17/08/2015 00:07

I am not even going to read other comments, I am just going to comment on my thoughts.

When I read the first part of your post, I simply thought - 'jealous and acting childish.'

I was struggling to see your point of view and to see how you could justify really not being okay with a friendship simply because she's a women.

I have then however thought about how I would feel if this was my husband and, I really don't think I would be okay with it either. Lunching with her alone? I think that's quite an intimate situation for the position they're both in. Slightly inappropriate actually.
I don't think she should be texting him at all, not even if it was work related. If she needed to reach him with regards to work, I think it should be done via email and not his personal phone.
I also don't get why he is defending the situation so much? Does this women mean that much to him, really?
I predict that many people will think YABVVVU, but I get it. I truly don't think that I would be okay with this at all.

IfNotNowThenWhen · 17/08/2015 00:41

I think you sound completely reasonable actually.
You are not saying he can't go out late, or have female friends. It's just this one particular woman, who you can't even figure out has become such close friends with him in the first place.
Texting at 4 am, doing shots and staring into each others eyes? Not to mention the fact of your husband confiding this very secret career decision in this woman? I am sorry but I would go with my instincts on this.
I also think it can be hard for married women to hear stories of husbands potentially being unfaithful.
Well, it happens, and in this situation I wouldn't rule it out.
All the stories of young women being close to senior male colleagues and it being oh so innocent made me snort tbh.
Made me think of a young colleague of mine who is rather friendly with her boss,goes for drinks etc. She has no interest in him and would be horrified if she thought he had salacious feelings toward her but he clearly does. He probably wouldn't be daft enough to act on it, but he's clearly an old goat who so would if he thought it was reciprocal.

If it looks like a duck and quacks like a duck it's probably a duck. Sorry.

Arranie · 17/08/2015 00:54

Yabu, sorry. Your dh is friends with her. I've got close married male friends at work and nothing in it beyond friendship.

If she was a he, you'd be fine with it.

moonfacebaby · 17/08/2015 01:30

I'd trust your instincts - especially if you've been fine with him having female friends prior to this one.

I was like this with my exH - his female friendships didn't bother me. However, the two that made my spidey-senses tingle - it turned out he had an emotional affair & then 5 years later, a full blown affair. Both of those women made me uncomfortable - I didn't like his friendship with the emotional affair one & the later one, he had serious mentionitis about her.

chrome100 · 17/08/2015 04:53

You sound a bit jealous and possessive to be honest!

PegsPigs · 17/08/2015 05:42

YABU. You sound very insecure. It's nice when work colleagues can truly be friends. You need someone you can confide it at work who knows what it's really like for you.

BeautifulBatman · 17/08/2015 05:45

YABU. Tbh I wouldn't like it either but I do recognise that would be my issue, not DHs.

ScorpioMermaid · 17/08/2015 05:57

yanbu.

If you have a gut feeling about someone it's usually worth listening too. especially as you don't have a problem with his other female friends. If it was my husband in this situation, and it has been before, then I would just make it clear to him how i feel about it and see what happens because at the end of the day his loyalties should lie with you OP and not the friend. Thanks

WayneRooneysHair · 17/08/2015 07:30

YABU OP, you sound like one of my ex partners. I've been out for lunch with female colleagues before, it's completely harmless and I've also confided in them, that's what happens when you work in an office I've found.

CantAffordtoLive · 17/08/2015 07:33

YANBU. I'm with all the others who say to trust your instincts.

Also, is he trying to reassure you that nothing is going on? or is he just accusing you of over reacting?

Icimoi · 17/08/2015 07:40

I really don't go along with this "trust your instincts" stuff. My sister's very controlling boyfriend was constantly trusting his instincts that she must be having a raving affair with every man she so much as looked at. You have to go on the evidence, and things like confiding work matters to work colleagues and sending innocuous texts are not evidence of anything.

bumbleymummy · 17/08/2015 07:44

In the nicest way possible, do you spend a lot of time on the Relationships board here? I think that reading lots of negative experiences where friends have turned out to be more than that can often make you see things or think things are worse than they are.

Funinthesun15 · 17/08/2015 07:45

It sounds as though you are insecure and projecting your insecurities onto your husband's friendship.

I completely agree with this.

The 4 am text could have been delayed. It does happen in fact it did yesterday. I text DH and it actually buzzed through 3 hrs later

I also agree with icimoi. Instinctshe can be a good thing, but my cousins marriage ended because of his exW instincts and thinking he was having an affair with all insundry because her 'instincts' told her that he was.

Maltesermom · 17/08/2015 07:51

YANBU
Sorry but i would be fuming. I admit i am an extremely jealous person, BUT the fact that she texts him would be enough to get my hackles up.
X

Maltesermom · 17/08/2015 07:53

And it is nice that work colleagues can be friends?! Work is work, yes it is good that there is an amicable work situation, but friends at work, both married? No i think that is unacceptable!

SingingTunelessly · 17/08/2015 08:00

YANBU. Agree with Trexing - how did this friendship start? Very Junior/very Senior colleagues rarely get to interact so much that a deep, meaningful friendship develops during the working day in my experience.

Kampeki · 17/08/2015 08:11

Work is work, yes it is good that there is an amicable work situation, but friends at work, both married? No i think that is unacceptable!

Seriously?! Shock

sanityforlunch · 17/08/2015 08:13

I can understand how you feel and it does sound inappropriate. Why is he confiding in her if he is so senior? Not acceptable at all.

I have been friends with a colleague for 20 years, text in the evenings, the odd coffee or lunch, all very open. For the last three I have had to fight him off. He told me he has feelings for me and even though he is married, wants to test things out with me!

It is so easy to get close to colleagues especially if you socialise together. I have seen so many affairs and marriage breakdowns over the years in my workplace. The last person to know is the wife/husband at home.

Maltesermom · 17/08/2015 08:18

Yes kampeki seriously

Nolim · 17/08/2015 08:20

but friends at work, both married? No i think that is unacceptable!

did i just read that?

ahbollocks · 17/08/2015 08:23

I feel like you have posted this before OP?

Maltesermom · 17/08/2015 08:26

Surely i am allowed my opinion, and as the OP described it, in her circumstance yes i do think it is unacceptable

AmIthatbloodywet · 17/08/2015 08:28

How sad that that some people actually think it unacceptable to have friends who happen to be the opposite sex.

Entitled to your opinion, yes, but in my opinion that is fucked up logic

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