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DH always frustrated. Is he BU or AIBU to be sensitive?

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ToFleaOrNotToFlea · 25/07/2015 07:51

Hello all, DH seems to always be frustrated in our relationship to the point where he has little outbursts of sulking, moodiness and swearing. The things which particularly set him off are if the house is slightly untidy (it is always pristine). Or if he needs to work in the garden he carries it out with an air of annoyance. He says he cannot relax until things are tidy and jobs are done. When he has these outbursts, it makes me feel like I want to do a number 2 - it chills me and makes me feel on the edge. He knows this but carries on anyway, stating that he is not being unreasonable about being frustrated from time to time.

However, it has really got me down and I always seem to be anticipating his mood. He has said some really mean things that I can't shake off and I feel a bit damaged. He also puts that down to not really meaning it and being frustrated at the time.

So any little outburst of frustration from him will really affect me to the point that I feel I can't be with him anymore. When I confront the behaviour, he just brushes it of as me not being able to deal with adults getting annoyed.

Last weekend, for example, we went to an event and were stuck in traffic. My way of dealing with it would be 'oh well, annoying, but we can't do anything about it' kind of thing.

His reaction was to keep banging the steering wheel, swearing, growling, going on and on about how we always fail, and we should have got up earlier and we are always rubbish. He kept saying he was goin to have a breakdown - and the atmosphere in the car was blue. DS aged 4 was in the back saying nothing, being a good little boy. I said to DH, why don't you walk if you are frustrated and I will drive and meet you there(I had seen on my phone map that we were 1.7 miles away). He spitted that I always say stuff that doesn't mean anything and don't know what I am on about, and how could I expect him to walk on a verge with stingers. He chose to stay in the car and keep complaining that we were missing all the best stuff.

We finally got there and we didn't miss the best stuff, but there was a bit of a walk to the arena. DS is only little and cannot walk fast but I could see DH face getting more and more annoyed as he cannot walk slow.

On the way home, I confronted him about his behaviour and said he behaved like a prick. I know I should not have use that name (but it was the first time I used any insult in 16 years of being together and it was probably the first time I stood up to him).

He did not take kindly to that and rolled his eyes, shut down the conversation and refused to help me navigate home. There were several roads closed and I didn't know where I was going. I asked him if I should go right and he made out he didn't know (with attitude). I proceeded to turn right and it was wrong and he screamed at me (turn fucking left!!!!) luckily DS was sleeping.

A horrible atmosphere followed for a couple of days. I apologised for using the p word. Suggested couples counselling (which was originally his idea but he was now saying he would feel uncomfortable and embarrassed talking in front of a stranger).

I asked him if he wanted something to eat for dinner one evening and he didn't answer me or look at me. I asked him again, he said yes please. I made him the dinner which he was pleased with because afterwards he was hugging me. So confusing, he oscillates from moods to being happy i can't keep up with it.

When I tried to discuss it last night again, he shut it down and made it my problem that people get frustrated from time to time and I am unable to deal with this which is normal. I said it isn't acceptable if it makes me feel terrible and he replied in a sarcastic tone that he was sorry for getting frustrated and disturbing 'your lovely life'.

I know the traffic situation seems minor, but it is just to illustrate. It makes my stomach feel tight and puts me on edge.

Who has the problem? Is it me being sensitive, or is it quite common for partners to behave this way when they are annoyed?

Thanks

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ToFleaOrNotToFlea · 28/07/2015 10:53

No it has been booked for a week

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butterflygirl15 · 28/07/2015 10:54

you should never undertake joint counselling when you are in an abusive relationship. I really think you should get counselling for yourself to investigate why you are putting up with this.

FantasticButtocks · 28/07/2015 11:23

I'd say to him No, adults do not normally express their anger and frustration like you do. You are unable to control yourself, even in front of our child in the confined space of the car. I am not responsible for how you feel if a toy is out of place. How about if I don't feel like tidying up? How about if I'm not in the mood to tidy? Surely you don't want me doing this to appease you? You are not my fucking boss. If you don't acknowledge that it is you who has the problem at this counselling session, our marriage is over.

BoyScout · 28/07/2015 11:33

I think you need to tell him that his marriage is on the line if he doesn't get help.

rollonthesummer · 28/07/2015 11:40

I can't you asked this controlling abusing man to be guarantor for you-giving him more control over you?!

Have you family that night help you?

hellsbellsmelons · 28/07/2015 12:49

I hope you have a good counsellor because they should tell you right up front that joint counselling is not OK and they will see you separately.
Never ever go to counselling with your abuser.
It just gives them ammunition to use against you and beat you further.
Separate counselling only.
HE is the angry one and HE needs counselling, ON HIS OWN.
You need counselling to understand why you are putting up with this kind of behaviour and treatment - ON YOUR OWN!

ToFleaOrNotToFlea · 28/07/2015 12:52

Hellsbells-is a counsellor likely to stop the session if she thinks it is emotionally abusive?

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hellsbellsmelons · 28/07/2015 12:59

She SHOULD do yes. But whether that will happen or not depends on how good the counsellor is.
That is why we are saying NOT to go together at all.
She may not pick up on it.
EAs can pull the wool over peoples eyes - they do it all the time.

musicalbingo · 28/07/2015 15:10

Agree with hellsbellsmelons.

ChazsBrilliantAttitude · 28/07/2015 16:32

You mentioned the Lundy Bancroft book. He catagorically does not recommend couples counselling in an abusive situation. It doesn't help and may be harmful.

I half expect your DH is expecting the counsellor to join with him in telling you what you are doing wrong. He does not think it is his fault and he is unlikely to have an amazing insight when his behaviour has been like this since childhood.

I would get counselling for yourself and leave.

ForFlipSakes · 28/07/2015 17:06

I just want to add my voice to ltb brigade. Please, please leave. It will only get worse.

KetchupIsNearlyAVegetable · 28/07/2015 18:56

Who selected the counsellor? Does the counsellor have experience with domestic violence? WomensAid already told you it is DV. Maybe ask them for a recommendation.

ilovesooty · 28/07/2015 19:11

I have before now terminated a counselling session when I felt the relationship was abusive and refused to continue seeing the clients as a couple. I was happy to signpost both parties into individual counselling with trusted colleagues.
If this counsellor agrees to see you both together given what you've said here I'd have concerns about his/ her competence.

pickingstrawberries · 28/07/2015 19:23

Isn't that cause you know your stuff with abusive relationships though ILS? Not everybody does.

ilovesooty · 28/07/2015 20:17

I appreciate that yes, I do have experience. I'm just trying to reinforce what others are telling the OP about the need to be wary about this counselling session. Several posters are advising her that counselling shouldn't be happening as a couple I'd the relationship is abusive. I'm concerned that she may still plan to engage in it.

pickingstrawberries · 28/07/2015 20:37

But how would you know ils?

Genuine question obviously.

ilovesooty · 28/07/2015 20:48

A counsellor properly trained in couples therapy should be able to pick up on it. If they can't and don't they shouldn't be counselling couples.

I still think, in common with several other posters, that the OP should not engage in therapy with her husband.

RoboticSealpup · 28/07/2015 20:59

My friend and her emotionally abusive OH had joint counselling. He made himself look really reasonable. The way she sees it, he was just more skilled at putting his point across than she, and that's why she got nothing out of it. It's pretty clear to me however that he played the counsellor like a flute, just like he does with her. He hasn't changed his behaviour at all.

musicalbingo · 28/07/2015 22:39

Toflea
Did you go to the session?
How did it go?

Have you written off the idea of moving into your friends for a while?

ToFleaOrNotToFlea · 28/07/2015 23:18

The session is tomorrow eve. Will give you all a full report.

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ToFleaOrNotToFlea · 29/07/2015 21:18

Hello all, we went to counselling but I don't think DH will want to continue with it. Before we went in he said he was only doing it the once, and when the counsellor offered to book in the next session, he said he wanted to discuss with me first. Doesn't sound promising does it.

He was very eloquent in the session. Admitted he got frustrated a lot due to job stress and weather changes- and because we had different goals in life - said he wanted more and I was not ambitious as I had 'achieved my goal in having DS). He said he did not want to break up. I said i thought it was for the best as we are incompatible.

One thing that did come out of it that I didn't know - he admitted to using cocaine when going out with friends. I was shocked as I thought this was only done in his experimental years. He said in the session that most young people do - I said not in my circles they don't.

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WeirdCatLady · 29/07/2015 21:22

Weather changes??? FFS.

How are you feeling about it all now Op?

ToFleaOrNotToFlea · 29/07/2015 21:25

He gets SAD. Spring in step when sunny. Very down when it rains.

Feel much the same, still down and damaged by the many cutting comments he has said

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tomatoplantproject · 29/07/2015 21:46

Sounds like he is going through the motions and doesn't actually care about you at all. He is making excuses for his bad behaviour and not devastated about the consequences for you at all.

He's been lying about the drugs. What else is there?

If he cared he would commit to the counselling.

I'm so sorry. I would leave.

TheSkyAtNight · 29/07/2015 21:57

Sorry to hear this, ToFlea. The cocaine use & moodiness could be related? but if he doesn't want to change, I guess that's irrelevant...

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