To think that some BMW are complete cocks?

[Meandyouandyouandme]

Just had a massive standoff with a BMW driver. I had right of way, cars were parked all down his side, so I expected him to pull over to let me pass. At the point where we met, he was about 4 foot past a large space to pull in, which was also opposite a side road, which would have I would have been able to use to get past. So there was plenty of room for us to pass without either of us really waiting. He stopped on my side of the road, and expected me to drive on the pavement to get round him. I just stopped, I didn't have anywhere to be, in a hurry, so thought he would move eventually!
Some scaffolders on a nearby house started telling him to reverse but he wasn't having any of it.
A lady behind me tried to get him to reverse, then another guy told him to reverse. But all to no avail, I gave in to his complete twattery and drove on the pavement to get round him. I shouted to him that he needs to learn how to drive, he told me that I was jealous of his car. If having a car like that makes you drive like a cock, then I'm glad I don't have one.
I'm absolutely shaking with the frustration of his arrogance. I have noticed since driving a small car, I get cut up a lot. But this was ridiculous.

I was always taught that the car on the side of the obstruction had to give way to the car on the other side. I've never heard of the car that was there first having right of way.

I think that's what we are all taught daisy, how people then drive after passing is a bit of a free for all!

Lovely dig at VW there Annie

If you are going to denegrate a company on the basis of dubious history (started my Hitler etc etc), there's an awful lot of companies you could have a go at. We're well aware of VW's history, dp being German and myself having been born there. Perhaps on the same lines you'd also like to have a go at that too by the same logic.

Oh and by the way, we're not "quirky" and didn't buy the hippie mobile because of fashion, we just like old classics (I couldn't give less of a damn about "cool" or otherwise).

What about 'He Man' trucks with names such as Warrior, Helix and Vulcan. Real wankers although I have equal beef with the new monied 4x4 (range rovers are the worst) drivers and new Audi's, tailgating cun%s. I have noticed that most road accidents I drive past usually involve one of them plus a BMW . most the parents at my dd's school drive range rovers, they are a nightmare equalling selfish arragont and rude

I just don't get the status car hatred. No one says, look at those arrogant gits in their beautiful expensive dream house, look at that entitled woman in her gorgeous designer clothes and heels.

But somehow driving the equivalent car makes you a tosser. I can afford a car that is beautiful, comfortable and great to drive, why would I buy anything else? It is like living in a council flat when you could have a nice Georgian farmhouse in the country or wearing Primark when you could wear designer.

I think Audi's and range rovers are lovely vehicles and of course there are plenty of people that own them who behave like regular considerate human beings however these particular cars do attract an unusually high amount of (new monied) status obsessed twats who are rude and don't appear to know how to behave with their new found wealth.

Oh God heaven forbid anyone is "new monied". Why can't the plebs know their place eh, and leave the Monet to these nice middle class people.

Nothing wrong with 'new money', it was used as a sarcastic term directed at specific behavior by a certain group which I sadly live among who behave, often, appallingly (footballers Essex territory)

I had something like this happen me once except it was an elderly man. His side of the road was blocked with cars parked outside the local primary school. As I was half way past the parked cars on my own clear side of the road he pulls out round them and drives straight at me as if Im invisible I just stopped and stared at him in disbelief for a few moments before reversing back up the road to let him go on.

A 'proper' BMW, ie one with a powerful straight-six engine, a manual gearbox and rear wheel drive, delivers a combination of performance, refinement, steering feel and handling which sets it apart from lesser machines. Like Audis, for example....

It depends really on your definition of a 'proper' BMW. For me anything other than an M car isn't and in fact it's only recently that an M car has returned to a straight 6. They've all been V8s and V10s in the recent past. Non M cars are just shit.

Annie, history is history. It's in the past. As I said, if you are going to denigrate all companies with dubious pasts, you'll have a long list (do you let your children watch Disney films for example, in spite of the history? What about drinking Fanta? - originated in Nazi Germany, or how about Hugo Boss - started by a German SS member, who made uniforms for the SS using forced labour from France and Poland. This is to name but a few... ).

I think you'll find you're in the minority if you don't think T2's, Beetles, Karmann Ghias, Variants and the like are classic cars. There's an awful lot more history behind them than the start of the company almost 80 years ago!

Annie - VW may have been started by the Nazis, but its continued existence after WWII was in part thanks to the British occupation authorities, who had the foresight and magnanimity to recognise that the future peace of Europe would be most secure if Germans lived in a stable democracy with a prosperous economy.

So it was that the British occupation authorities made restarting civilian production at the VW factory one of their priorities.

Thus it is absurd to say that buying a VW car associates one with German fascism. The reality is quite the opposite - it is a symbol of the new Germany that was created following the destruction of the war.

See for example the account on Wikipedia

Oh, and let's not forget about the Scouting movement - started by Baden Powell (a Nazi sympathiser and alleged liking for young boys), Kodak who used slave labour from concentration camps during the war, Henry Ford was anti-semite and received a medal from Hitler for "distinguished foreigners", IBM who custom built machines for the Nazis to track everything, Siemans who used slave labour to help build gas chambers during the holocaust and the drugs company Bayer who invented Zyklon B gas.

Disney was famously anti-semitic.

Coco Chanel was a bit of a cunt too.

CactusAnnie - The first people to buy VW cars after WWII were... the British Army, who had been fighting the Nazis for nearly six years.

No, because the history since the start of the company superceeds that. The VW no longer symbolises Hitler etc because there has been an awful lot of stuff happened since then and what is represents now is not about the start of the company (Audi, Seat and Skoda are also part of the VW group, so should they be judged the same?). Bayer invented Zyklon B, but also invented asprin. They still don't recognise the Jew who invented asprin as being responsible for its development (hence still hanging on to those anti-semitic views...) - so by the same logic, should we stop taking aspirin due to it's origins?

and let's not forget Franklin Roosevelt, Winston Churchill and Roald Dahl, again, amongst others.

Two things spring to mind:

1. Germans consider BMWs to be a penis enlarger.
2. See pic

I drive a small car (use the train a lot) which is about 15 years old and know several BMW and Audi drivers in my professional life. I know how much they are worth, how much debt they have and often what their marital relationships are like. I can vouch that generally the more materialistic they are the less successful they are financially and emotionally.