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25 when did it become not an adult?

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Samcro · 08/07/2015 23:26

so under 25 you don't get the new wage.
surely 25 is and adult. someone who has left education and home, hopefully been working a few years so why?
why is say (for example) a 23 yr old thought to be worth less?

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ChuffinAda · 08/07/2015 23:31

I would guess they went for that age based on all the reports saying people still live with their parents til then

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Samcro · 08/07/2015 23:33

but how can they now leave home

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LashesandLipstick · 08/07/2015 23:41

When all your voters are miserable old bastards moaning about today's generation it makes sense to fuck over the young.

In all seriousness it really annoys me.

senua · 08/07/2015 23:41

It's probably because at that age you are only responsible for yourself. And perhaps your OH. You won't have taken on family responsibilities. The average age of mothers is 29.8 y.o. and fathers are older than that.

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Samcro · 08/07/2015 23:42

its so sad as they are the people who will keep us when we are old. I hope they remember.

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TOADfan · 08/07/2015 23:43

You have always been considered a young person until 25. It isn't new and isn't always bad, as at 24 I got my job because I was in a young persons employment scheme.
I also did youth work with up to 25 year olds.

It's not always a bad thing and can be beneficial, especially finding jobs.

Saying that I'm 25 now and still feel like a young person.

LashesandLipstick · 08/07/2015 23:45

Young person is still an adult, and it's bad when you're not getting the same wage for the same job, it's exploitation

raawwhh · 08/07/2015 23:59

Its disgusting. My rent and bills arent cheaper, my car doesnt cost less to run and Im not any less competent at my job because Im 24 and not 25.

Babiecakes11 · 09/07/2015 00:11

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ReallyTired · 09/07/2015 00:14

Bloody ridiculous. I had a good job and my own flat at 25. Lots of people were married and had a family long before 25. In fact doctors suggest it's better to have children in your twenties.

I fear that lots of over 25s will be frozen out the job market has they have to be paid a living wage. I feel the minimum wage should apply to all over 18s unless they are in an apprenticeship. I hope some one challenges this outright ageism.

whois · 09/07/2015 00:17

I feel like 21 would be a better age for the cut off.

DixieNormas · 09/07/2015 00:18

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BualadhBos · 09/07/2015 00:18

I got married when I was 25.

BualadhBos · 09/07/2015 00:19

Wish I was still 25!

BabyFeets · 09/07/2015 00:21

How the gov seem to see it, they also think 25yr olds should still be a home. In a way though they are sort of correct since people are living longer

DixieNormas · 09/07/2015 00:21

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80sMum · 09/07/2015 00:23

Seems daft to me. When I was 25 I had 2 children, a mortgage and had been married for 5 years! I was most definitely an adult.

SinisterBunnyMonth · 09/07/2015 00:26

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Greenrememberedhills · 09/07/2015 00:27

Now now Chuffin, I'm a miserable old bastard but I don't approve of fucking over the young either! mind you, I'm not a story either

Greenrememberedhills · 09/07/2015 00:27

Tory!

wafflyversatile · 09/07/2015 00:40

It's probably because at that age you are only responsible for yourself. And perhaps your OH. You won't have taken on family responsibilities. The average age of mothers is 29.8 y.o. and fathers are older than that.

You seem to be confusing the meaning of 'average' with the meaning of 'minimum'.

Scissor · 09/07/2015 00:40

Office for national statistics:
"Babies born in England and Wales in 2012 were most likely to have a mother aged 25-34, with over a half (57%) of mothers in this age group. A further 23% of babies were born to younger mothers, aged under 25, while a fifth (20%) had mothers aged 35 and over at the time of birth."

So 23% of babies born don't require one of their parents to be entitled to be paid a living wage ???
Is that the logic? Maybe they're magic babies that live on fairy dust.

Scissor · 09/07/2015 00:43

Actually ...more accurately these 23% of babies have a mother who is not entitled to living wage.

GraysAnalogy · 09/07/2015 00:47

If they're old enough to be tried as an adult in court then they should get the same amount as an adult in pay.

I've been an adult according to cinema prices since I was 14 years of age now that's a fucking travesty.

The people who make these laws are so out of touch with the real world it's unreal. Most people I knew when I was 18 had to pay their own way. Parents couldn't afford us. Child benefit stopped so that was even worse.

WomanScorned · 09/07/2015 01:06

But why does there need to be a cut off, at all?
My DS has only just seen his hourly rate reach £5 p/h, when he turned 21. His 19 year old colleague is still being paid under £5 for the same work. Same work, same responsibilities. No doubt they'll both be sacked when they hit 25 and are due to be paid a 'living wage' for the exact same work. They've no employment rights, anyway, as they're on zero hour contracts. Having said that, when he loses his Housing Benefit and, thus, his home, he'll probably lose his job, anyway, as he needs to be smart. Which is difficult when you're living rough.
What a horrible, shitty time to be young Angry

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