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To not have any friends?

129 replies

WhatsTheT · 08/07/2015 11:05

I am starting to feel like me and my OH are a bit strange? lol

My OH and I are both in our late 20s with a 7 mo

I have facebook friends, who are all friends from when I was around 18-22 and a few old school friends They are all very close knit, some with children, some without. They all go out in the evening and do daytime activities together all the time. I get invited, but I never bother, and when I do, I never enjoy it and I am just thinking about what I could do in my own time.
My OH is exactly the same (he doesn't even have social networking) and has about 2 friends plus his cousin who he will see every couple of months. He's also very close with his family.

We both either like doing our own thing alone or together, crafts, board games, computer games, walks, days out, museums, galleries, football...etc we really enjoy eachothers company and have since before we are a couple. (we've been together for years and friends longer then that)

We have always been this way. In fact that's how we met, in the corner of a party we really didn't want to be at lol.

So anyway to get to the point. A few days ago a friend messaged me asking me to come to night out someone was having, who I had met once. She explained "everyone will be going" so doesn't really matter that I don't know the host. I said no thanks....etc and she gave me an outburst of nonesense about me making myself a social outcast, that it's bad for the baby (I was invited to a bloody nightclub!?) I do take my baby to the children's centre for play sessions and she starts nursery soon when I go back to work, so I am not forcing her into a closed off life. She was a very very close friend, I thought we would eventually be close again when I was pregnant, as she has children, and thought we would bond over that, but she only seems to do social things with adults, and never any children friendly days out, which I would be happy to be involved in.

Everything they do involves money and I have none, they offer to lend but I really dont ever want to have to budget nights out and drinking and clothes into the little money I have spare that I spend on my hobbies.

I do sometimes look at facebook, see them all and think I'm missing out. But usually the idea of it all is much more fun than doing it, and the odd time I do give in and go to something, I'm pretty much a wall flower counting down the time til I can make my excuses and leave.

I do try and make an effort with them as in suggesting a brew or popping to their houses or a phone call, or taking the kids on a walk in the buggies, but they are only interested in big group activities they can brag about. So I rarely get a response.

I really dont want to be bothered anymore. I like being alone. Is that so wrong?

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ouryve · 08/07/2015 12:06

I understand completely! I sometimes even withdraw from mumsnet fr a while because everyone is too bloody chatty!

molyholy · 08/07/2015 12:08

To me this seems very odd. Hang around people I don't like, who don't do things I like, who don't want to do things I like

You obviously have been mixing with the wrong friendship group if this ^ is what constitutes your current friends. It is nothing I recognise.

You asked if it was wrong that you like to be alone. Some said yes, some said maybe you should make/cultivate friendships.

You said you prefer your life the way it is.

Why did you ask the question? Not sure why people come on AIBU when they already have the answer in their head with no intention of hearing anyone elses views Confused

Appleblossom82 · 08/07/2015 12:09

Thats reassuring whats the t. I am kind of dreading all these mass gatherings and idle chit chat/declining invitations and appearing like the antisocial bitch i am unfriendly or stuck up.

Theycallmemellowjello · 08/07/2015 12:10

Look you asked for people's opinions on this! I'm giving you my opinion, obviously you can take or leave it. I think that in the long term, people who do not socialise at all except with their partner have a harder time in life. I think it can be bad for a relationship in the long term to only have each other, I think it shuts you off from different opinions and I think that if you go for a long time without any social contact then it makes it much harder to make friends. This is from observation of my parents and also an aunt who have gone through life without socialising outside the family. I've also spoken to people my age (30s) who let friendships slide when they got married/had kids and then began to feel isolated. I also think that there are very few people who don't find a true friendship enriching - it's one of the joys of life IMO.

I also get the impression from your post that you're concluding from the fact that you know people who like going clubbing and you don't like going clubbing that you don't want friends. That seems a bit of a leap. I haven't been clubbing since I was at university but I have friends, it's not like the two things are inextricably connected,

WhatsTheT · 08/07/2015 12:11

I don't think you have to make friends but what you give out to someone you like who is a friend, can repay you by the bucket full in years to come. OP.. can't you offer coffee or a catch up without kids to some of the people you know? Or ask a few girlfriends round for a pizza and a glass of wine... anything really.

I have offered all sorts, if it isn't an "epic" time with large groups of people, I'll get cancelled on. I was supposed to meet a friend to do some crafts today, She said she wanted to, So I said I'd teach her. I arrange for a sitter so we have time together, she cancels 1 hour before due to "lost keys" I know in 2 hours time she will have "found keys" and she'll be doing something else on facebook. She's one of the same people who wants me to go out drinking this weekend so I "get out of the house"

Someone I know who didn't really want or hadn't particularly bothered to make friends, why should she, her DH and her were inseperable and did absolutely everything together. Well.... he dropped dead a few weeks ago and believe me, it is very very hard to now call on people when you haven't made the effort previously. He was 57 and she is 55, and they chose not to have DCs. What happens now, her soulmate, the only person she really socialised with, they did everything together... he is gone. She now has to start again, how hard it is going to be for her.

I knew someone would bring this kind of thing up. It Isn't a relationship thing. I have been like this since I was a child. Happy in my own company, sad and withdrawn when made to socialise (I'm not shy)

The fact I now spend it with my other half is just a bonus, I never expected to, and it never made me sad, just so happened I found a fellow hermit in all the social butterflies lol.

My mum passed away when I was 19, my dad is nearly 70, He is the same as me. He paints, builds, invents and plays instruments. My OH's parents pressure him into coming to things now and again, I see him cringe the way I do.

I wonder why it is so hard to consider for other people that some people enjoy "loneliness"

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molyholy · 08/07/2015 12:13

So why did you ask the question OP if you already know the answer?

redskybynight · 08/07/2015 12:13

Is the issue more that you don't like pubs/clubs/big parties than not wanting friends?

For what's it's worth I don't enjoy any of those things either - but I do like having a friend round for coffee and a chat. I also have a couple of friends who like to do embroidery, so they come round and we all do this and we have a natter.

I don't miss not doing the pubs/clubs thing but I would miss not having the odd friend to have a chat with occasionally and agree with other posters who've said that you might find as your child gets older that you start to feel more lonely.

Theycallmemellowjello · 08/07/2015 12:13

I wonder why it is so hard to consider for other people that some people enjoy "loneliness"

Ok, but if you enjoy loneliness and are sure this is what you want, why ask others their opinion?

Theycallmemellowjello · 08/07/2015 12:14

X post with holymoly!

Appleblossom82 · 08/07/2015 12:14

Maybe she wanted to know that some other people feel the same.

Some people are extrovert and get 'charged' by socialising. Some are introvert and find socialising very draining.

LashesandLipstick · 08/07/2015 12:15

There's a difference between shyness (wanting to join in but feeling anxious) and introversion (not wanting to join in because you prefer other endeavours)

Meemoll · 08/07/2015 12:16

I am not really a social butterfly either but if you are so happy why did you post on aibu? Why not declare it on facebook then all the people who keep falling themselves asking you out all the time will leave you to it?

Gottagetmoving · 08/07/2015 12:16

I think going through life without friends is a bad idea

Why? theycallmemellowjello ? Not everybody feels the need for friends.
I think sometimes people assume someone without friends cannot possibly be happy because they couldn't!
In my early 20s I had quite a few friends but to be honest it was sometimes suffocating and it caused problems. I am still in touch with them but it is much better now we are not in contact all the time. I think they believe I am odd because I don't want to do all the meeting up and socialising but I really am much happier not being involved.
I just wish people would believe that being alone is not necessarily 'lonely'

Theycallmemellowjello · 08/07/2015 12:17

I am a huge introvert and definitely find socialising draining. However I do think that introvert does not have to mean friendless and that introverts also can find friendships deeply fulfilling and valuable. I do think that introverts are in particular danger of withdrawing and suffering loneliness though.

goldeline · 08/07/2015 12:17

I'm really glad I've seen this post. I'm 25 with a 20 month old DS and I beat myself up every day over the fact that I don't have much of a social life anymore. I have opportunities to see friends but between working and spending time with family I don't have the energy, and like others would rather spend my free time with DS or enjoying the small amount of time left over alone with DP.

So no, YANBU at all. I wish I could get to a place where I don't feel like less of a human for not wanting to live a certain way.

Appleblossom82 · 08/07/2015 12:17

Yes but from what op has said it sounds to me like she is an introvert and its not about shyness.

WhatsTheT · 08/07/2015 12:18

Thats reassuring whats the t. I am kind of dreading all these mass gatherings and idle chit chat/declining invitations and appearing like the antisocial bitch i am unfriendly or stuck up.

Haha! HAd the exact same worry. You'll be fine :)

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Roussette · 08/07/2015 12:18

OP.... your first para means that if you want friends and I don't think you do, the ones you know aren't the right sort of friends. If - in the future- you think you would like to socialise, there will be those out there who are possibly more on your wavelength.

Re your second para - predictable am I?! Grin. But it is true. If you are honestly happy to be on your own all your life, that's your prerogative, go for it. No one is forcing you to have friends. But believe me, you are only in your late 20's and you honestly might feel differently when you are 60. Friends and I mean proper friends can enrich your life. No clubbing, no shots, just warmth and love. That's what I have and I wouldn't have it any other way. But I wouldn't be talking anyone into doing different than what they are determined to do (you!)

I still stand by the fact that anyone who loses the 'constant' in their life like the person I know who has lost her husband after over 30 years of marriage, the emptiness and the chasm in her life is immense.

LashesandLipstick · 08/07/2015 12:20

Mellow but if you're introverted too then you can understand why some introverts don't really want to socialise?

I like a small group of friends, but wouldn't want to be constantly going out. Some people like larger groups and some smaller than I do! Both are fine

WhatsTheT · 08/07/2015 12:20

Theycallmemellowjello

I just don't think you are understanding what I am getting at at all and that's fine.

It's definitely nothing to do with me being in a relationship also. I explained I've been the same since being little.

IT's not a clubbing/not clubbing thing. IT's just an example.

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Theycallmemellowjello · 08/07/2015 12:21

Gotta - I explained why I think this in my previous posts. It's from my personal experience as a person with as far as I can tell a very similar personality type to the op and from my experience of older family members and other people my age. I'd imagine we're all speaking from personal and anecdotal experience!

Roussette · 08/07/2015 12:23

I didn't finish my last paragraph properly -
I still stand by the fact that anyone who loses the 'constant' in their life like the person I know who has lost her husband after over 30 years of marriage, the emptiness and the chasm in her life is immense, as she didn't bother with friends because she had him.

OP with all due respect you can't assume you would still be happy with your decision to not have friends if god forbid something like this happened to you in thirty years time.

WhatsTheT · 08/07/2015 12:23

I still stand by the fact that anyone who loses the 'constant' in their life like the person I know who has lost her husband after over 30 years of marriage, the emptiness and the chasm in her life is immense.

My dad was married to my mum when she was 18, lost her at 54, he openly talks to about it and loves his solitude, he isnt being tough or pushing through, he likes it how it is (not without my mum, of course that is a massive change, but without socialising) I'ts just what makes him happy

I have no doubt your friend is the opposite :)

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Appleblossom82 · 08/07/2015 12:25

Introvert here as well. Love seeing my good friends and family when i do but if i do too much i feel the need to shut myself away alone or with dh for some down time.

I absolute hate having people to stay the night or staying at other people's houses as well. Even my good friends. Just a creature of habit and need my space. My sil is always asking us to stay the night at hers or crash at ours. We always have to make an excuse (she lives 5 miles away so there is really no need!!). Im happy to see people for a few hours but then i need to go home again and chill. Would hate to get up in the morning and have to make polite conversation Confused

WhatsTheT · 08/07/2015 12:26

OP with all due respect you can't assume you would still be happy with your decision to not have friends if god forbid something like this happened to you in thirty years time.

But I am not willing to force myself into being unhappy on possible security of friends if my OH snuffs it, I may never get to that point in my life, I'd rather be happy the best way I know how right now. I know myself :)

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