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AIBU to want to write a very strong worded letter of complaint to Mcdonalds?

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LookingforRainbows · 21/06/2015 09:30

So this happened yesterday at a Mcdonalds in London:

We were in the queue buying lunch, and my dsis needed to use the toilet. She has a 'hidden' disability and requires the disabled toilet for her needs, but the disabled toilet was locked, fair enough, stop everyone from using it and protects it for people who need it, like my sister. So, dsis went to ask a member of staff if it could be opened for her.
Well, just our luck that she happened to ask a complete bitch. The staff member told my dsis that she could not use it as she wasn't disabled. Ok, fair enough she didn't know. So my sister then explained to her that she does have a disability but it's a 'hidden' disability, and she will need to use the disabled toilet because of it. The girl gave my sister a horrid look (which I saw and at this point I came over) and said, 'you don't have a disability, you look perfectly fine to me to use the toilets downstairs' Again, my sis explained that her disability is hidden, so you wouldn't 'see' it or realised it, but it still required her to use the disabled toilet. The girl then said, well if you can't see it, then it can't be that bad so you can use the toilets downstairs and in the time you have spent trying to get into this toilet you could have finished the queue for the downstairs toilets (!!!!!!!!!) my sister politely said, 'what do you class as a disability here?'. The staff replied, 'you have to be in a wheelchair, or have something wrong with your legs so you can't get down the stairs'.
My sister replied, 'well I think you need to go on some disability awareness training, because some people, like me, have disabilities that are nothing to do with their legs and still need to use the disabled toilet.' The girl then asked my sister very rudely, 'what is your disability then? Because I can't see anything wrong with you' (!!!!)
My sis did not want to publically announce her disability to the whole of Macdonalds, but the total irony was that we had just finished doing the London Walk for Crohn's and Colitis and we were still wearing our tshirts!! So my sister said, if you want to know my disability, look at my tshirt, we have just come back from doing a charity walk for my disability, yet here we are being discriminated against because of it! The girl said, 'I'm not discriminating against you I just don't understand why you can't use the toilets downstairs, otherwise everyone will want this toilet unlocked for them.

I could not believe my ears at the rudeness of this young lady. My sister was absolutely humiliated (we were in public) and she was looking at us like a piece of shit.

So we told her to get the manager.
She huffed rudely 'fine!'.
We stood waiting by the disabled toilet and people were looking at us.
When the manager arrived with her, she said to the manager (before either of us could speak) these people can't be bothered to queue for the toilets downstairs- and she is saying that she is disabled.
And at this point my sister interrupted, 'excuse me I can speak for myself thank you very much!' We then explained to the manager what had happened etc. the manager did not ask any awkward questions or give us any funny looks, he simply took the key and opened the door and smiled and said no problem.

He was then extremely apologetic, and asked if we wanted anything free, but we had already bought out meals and to be honest after this incident we didn't even want to eat our food as it had left a bad taste in our mouth. I did see the manager take the member if staff aside and talk to her, but it didn't seem like she was being reprimanded.

Anyways, even this morning, thinking about it has got me livid and worked up. The irony that even when you are wearing a tshirt for Crohn's, you can still get prejudice right in front of your face!!

My sister wants me to help her write a strongly worded letter, as I often write letters of complaint for my work and it's my forte, but DH says that because the manager was apologetic and offered us a free food (which we had declined) we have no leg to stand on and we should just leave it....

AIBU to still be livid?

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RedHelenB · 21/06/2015 10:21

plus i could do a charity run for cancer but it doesn't mean I personally have it.

CamelHump · 21/06/2015 10:21

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UterusUterusGhali · 21/06/2015 10:22

Doreen that's not so much judgemental as fucking condescending.

I think if someone has got to the stage of having part of their bowel removed and diverted I'm pretty sure they know what their trigger foods are, if they have them.

Also, Crohns is an autoimmune disease. Nowt to do with diet FFS other than certain foods might make it more painful than it already is.

RB68 · 21/06/2015 10:23

so hubs thinks because you were offered what was effectively a bribe, you shouldn't complain formally...clearly there are issues with their disability awareness training. I do think the manager was right not to ball her out in front of customers, you don't know what was said or what the outcome was - it could have been a warning but no big deal made in front of customers - which is the right way to treat staff. But it is still worth putting it in right

RB68 · 21/06/2015 10:24

in writing that is

Lunastarfish · 21/06/2015 10:25

I'd still complain. I'd make it clear that the complaint is about the girl, not the manager, and that you want action taken against her.

Timeandtune · 21/06/2015 10:25

You might want to post a review here OP:
www.euansguide.com

Iloveonionchutney · 21/06/2015 10:26

What Uterus said, doreen you clearly know nothing about the illness and look just as ignorant as the staff member with that comment!
I have Crohn's and as a grown up who knows considerably more about my illness than someone who doesn't have it, I can say with certainty that we all know exactly what we can or can't eat! In my are healthy food is the wort thing in the world and if I could survive solely on junk I'd be a damn sight more pain free and comfortable! It's attitudes like that which cause problems for people with hidden disabilities! Angry

DoreenLethal · 21/06/2015 10:27

Yeah you are right - I just hate them so much I can't see why anyone - let alone anyone that has problems with their digestive system/bowel - would ever eat that crap.

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DoreenLethal · 21/06/2015 10:29

It's attitudes like that which cause problems for people with hidden disabilities!

I believe I asked if it was good, IIRC. Now I know that crap food is good for Crohn's I am more educated than I was this morning. Thank you.

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Stealthpolarbear · 21/06/2015 10:32

Why would they think the op is being "a total moron"
And why are people falling over themselves to praise the manager for handling a situation partly of his own making? What do people think a managers responsibilities include? Swanning around and reacting to stuff going wrong only?

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Fluffyears · 21/06/2015 10:34

I know someone with crohns who can't eat fruit or veg as it doesn't digest and makes him ill he lives on Burger King/McDonald's as it doesn't make him ill.

sharonthewaspandthewineywall · 21/06/2015 10:34

Doreen pity it hasn't taught you not to be such an arse

sharonthewaspandthewineywall · 21/06/2015 10:35

Exactly fibre and traditionally healthy foods can totally exacerbate bowel conditions. I have IBS and while it's nowhere near as serious as crohns and other IBD I do get sick of having to explain to judgeypants busybodys why I 'don't just eat a salad'

Sirzy · 21/06/2015 10:36

Nobody should have to explain their medical condition. If they choose to then fair enough but otherwise just saying "we need to use the disabled toilet" should be enough to get them unlocked without question.

DS has invisible disabilities which mean he has to use the disabled toilets sometimes and others he is fine to use the ladies with me. It's not for anyone to judge his use or to need justification. Strangely when he is using a wheelchair/pushchair people never question it but if he is walking/being carried they do!

Stealthpolarbear · 21/06/2015 10:37

I do think doreen was genuinely asking a question.

Momagain1 · 21/06/2015 10:37

YANBU to be angry that the staff member behaved that way. But YABU to think your t-shirt should have clarified the issue. You and hundreds of others were wearing the t-shirt. Having just completed that walk doesnt mean her disability was that one.

I would write in about her refusal to accomodate and carrying on to the point of humiliating your sister, but don't try using the t-shirt portion of the story as justification for your annoyance. That question is when you should have called the manager, her question was out of line and not worthy of a responce.

Dorren: mcdonalds does have appropriate food choices for chrohns sufferers, presumably OPs sister knows how to feed herself from their menu, or they wouldnt have gone there.

RedHelenB · 21/06/2015 10:38

Maybe they had loads of people ask who couldn't be arsed to go upstairs. I agree the employee could have handled it better but still think it would have been easier to quietly explain.

sharonthewaspandthewineywall · 21/06/2015 10:38

With a very sneery undertone prob due to the fact she admits she hates mcdonalds.
It's like saying to someone with arthritis 'well surely going to the gym won't help'

Stealthpolarbear · 21/06/2015 10:38

Sorry, genuine question don't you think that if "just asking" is enough you'd get a load of people using them to avoid queues? Presumably they are locked to minimise the risk that they'll be already in use when someone genuinely needs to use them

DoreenLethal · 21/06/2015 10:39

Doreen pity it hasn't taught you not to be such an arse

Why is it being an arse to ask a question? Is that not how we all learn from each other? I'm so happy that you were born knowing everything about everything and feel bad about sharing your knowledge with the world.

Who knew? I know I didn't!

Stealthpolarbear · 21/06/2015 10:39

You might be right Sharon.