to send this to HR

[mileend2bermondsey]

I applied for a job, spent 7 hours in combination of interviews and a trial shift, was told I would hear back by Friday which was 4 days after my last interview, contacted HR on Monday with a polite, 'please can you inform me on the progress of my application' and never even recieved a 'sorry you were unsuccessful' reply. Would it be UR to send this?

Dear hr,

despite being told I would be informed of the outcome of my job application by lastweek and also emailing yourself personally to no reply I have still heard nothing back from anyone.

I find this behaviour extremely unprofessional, if you do not wish to offer me the job it is common courtesy to at least inform the applicant, especially when they contact you directly to ask.

Regards,
mileend2bermondsey

God what a terrible idea. Do you really want to be rude and get yourself a terrible reputation, not to mention put yourself out of the running for the job, just because they're behind schedule. If you act like this in general you'll be lucky if your job hunt is successful anytime soon.

Some astonishing replies in this thread.

HR departments, including in big companies, often are rather inefficient which is why no one is terribly surprised that 10 days later you're still waiting for signs of life.

But actually, by usual business standards, it is not acceptable to take up a full day of someone's time for no reward and with no feedback. The OP has every right to think that she is owed the courtesy of a response, although she's provably a bit U expecting the average HR department to be prompt and courteous ;)

If OP had posted "AIBU to think that after interviews and a trial shift, HR could have at least responded to me in the time frame promised", it would be a resounding YANBU (and in fact I vaguely remember a similar thread on here where it was mooted that companies use this tactic to get free shifts covered!)

What is BU though, is to send a rude and an up your own arse email to the company concerned. It's the way OP proposed dealing with the situation, that is getting these responses (and I hate the stupid playground bullying phrase just because a large amount of posters respond to OPs fairly aggressive posts). Plus the OPs responses themselves - including the job centre snobbery - very unattractive.

No one is covering themselves in glory here, but the best thing OP can do now is to email the company concerned to advise them she has now secured a position elsewhere as she did not hear from them.

Incidentally, the job centre website is very good for job searching as they collate every agencies and employers adverts in one place!

That email is too long. Just write "Fuck off!". It will have exactly the same effect.

I once waited nearly 2 weeks for a job offer and chased once, where the reply was "we are still considering our candidates"

I applied for other roles in the interim and was offered a great job working helping others, for the hours I wanted to do, for a national charity.

First company finally came back to say "would you be interested" I just politely declined and said I had a new role that I enjoyed.

At least I know should a position come available in that well paying company in the future I can apply again and no bridges are burnt as such.

OP glad your not sending the poorly written and cuntish e-mail and well done you on your boastful 30k+ job well done indeed (slow hand claps)

...knob....

Ignore the sniping about your grammar, OP (incidentally, not many people can spell 'publicly' correctly, and you can!).

I'm wondering how other posters managed to infer from your original post that you are borderline unemployable, underqualified, deluded about your value to the business etc.

Your e-mail is similar to messages all of us would like to deliver sometimes, when people have been dismissive, rude, thoughtless and ill-mannered. I doubt that you ever planned to send it. It expresses your frustration and hurt feelings, which all of us experience sometimes.

Good luck with the job hunt.

I think it's disgraceful that the company hasn't kept the OP updated, given that she's undergone not only interviews, but a trial shift! Very discourteous.

There's no excuse for it - it takes two minutes to type a "sorry for the delay, no news yet" type email. If the HR person's dog/mum/auntie/parrot has died, someone else should do it. Presumably there was more than one person involved in that arduous recruitment process!

The email wasn't sent, I see. Good. Although I understand why the OP drafted it.

Wow, there is no need to be so nasty. Seems a lot of HR folk on here need to get down off their high horse and appreciate that the way companies/their HR dept behave is very poor. You seem to be on a power trip, but it will cause you to lose candidates that you may have really wanted, all because you are so dismissive of people's time and effort.

OP, YANBU to be pissed off, that's shocking. But don't send the email. Just go and find a much better job as that is the best revenge.

Ginger, no need for that. 30k by 23 is very impressive, actually. And the OP only said it because she was accused of being job-centre fodder/an idiot/someone desperate for a low paid job who'd been out of work for many years. All very unpleasant.

I don't think anyone said she was being unreasonable to be pissed off, people just said not to send that email. Pretty much what you've just said.

"appreciate that the way companies/their HR dept behave is very poor. "

All of them? You have experience of all of them then?

There is also a lot of HR bashing going on here as though HR people are one homogenous lump of people who all do exactly the same job.

Did HR interview the OP and tell them that they would expect to by X date or did the manager? Why is everyone assuming the hold up (or inefficiency) is with HR?

For what's it worth I am not involved in recruitment anymore but I would have given the OP a quick call after receiving her email to apologise for the delay and to reassure her I was chasing the manager and would let her know as soon as I had some news.

OP a quick phone call is always better than an email. Why don't you give them a quick call just to let them know how much you liked the company/the role and you are a little worried as you haven't heard anything?

Those of us in HR are used to HR bashing - obviously we're all crap and inefficient. Funny how people come to us when they have a problem though huh?

I interviewed with a chap this week who referred to me all through the interview as 'HR' - as in "HR will ask a question now. HR can explain that part." I told him afterwards I would prefer to be called by my name and that he could also drop the veiled snide remarks about 'HR'. I don't know if people realise they are doing it but they don't get away with it with me.

Not bothered by random internet people doing it though.

An employer did this to dh a few years ago. Assurances of 'we'll let you know epithet way next week'. He heard through the grapevine they had set someone else on. They didn't have the decency to call.

In what was probably the first red flag the person employed walked out rather disgruntled some months later (small industry, word travels) and dh applied again. Once again several interviews,promises of we'll call you and nothing.

About twelve months later they did call. Employee number two had left and they were interviewing again and would dh like to resubmit his application. He declined politely.

In that case they were just a shockingly poor company with what we now know to be a high turnover of staff few of whom have a good word to say about them.

I think there is an even split between good hr teams where real life gets in the way and poor ones who really don't want to be bothered with follow ups.

All of them? You have experience of all of them then?

I was referring to the ones that behave like this (ie, what this thread is about), obviously.