to send this to HR

[mileend2bermondsey]

I applied for a job, spent 7 hours in combination of interviews and a trial shift, was told I would hear back by Friday which was 4 days after my last interview, contacted HR on Monday with a polite, 'please can you inform me on the progress of my application' and never even recieved a 'sorry you were unsuccessful' reply. Would it be UR to send this?

Dear hr,

despite being told I would be informed of the outcome of my job application by lastweek and also emailing yourself personally to no reply I have still heard nothing back from anyone.

I find this behaviour extremely unprofessional, if you do not wish to offer me the job it is common courtesy to at least inform the applicant, especially when they contact you directly to ask.

Regards,
mileend2bermondsey

I'm an 'arrogant knob' for expecting a reply to an email I sent after not hearing back in the allocated time frame? kay....

I am laughing at your responses now OP.
It is hilarious.
You are very rude, very unprofessional and clearly have no ability to think laterally about why there may be a delay, nor to think of the possible impact of this on your future employment prospects

Also, points of ellipsis is three evenly spaced dots. Just the three!

Just phone them instead and ask what's happening

Amazed by some of these twatty replies

No don't send the email OP as it won't get you anywhere BUT we really think it's acceptable for an applicant to attend hours of interviews , have a trial shift , be advised when they'll hear back and then ... Nothing?

I think this company sound rude and unprofessional

If you send that, with its dreadful punctuation, you will convince them only that they dodged a bullet by not hiring you.

I can't believe I'm typing this, because OP has repeatedly shown herself to be arrogant, rude to other posters, sneery and irritating and yes the grammar in the draft email wasn't godawful.

But. An ellipsis at the end of a complete sentence also takes a full stop. So four dots.

Frustrating it may be but not uncommon for companies to say if youve not heard back then youve been unsuccessful. But if they said they would get back to you it would be annoying. I wouldnt send the email though - hr and other people might now other hr people at different companies and what if your name comes up - not going to be a favourable outcome

Its not always that simple op. I work for a very big company and frequently when it comes to the offer point it is hard to get sign off.

If you are at the beginning for a job search OP it would be a good idea to use this experience to re-set your expectations. What you have experienced is not that uncommon.

Most companies value flexibility and common sense in their employees, so you need to have a think about that.

I do understand how irritating it can be though, there is one company I have applied to 3 times in the last 20 years, each time they moved with such glacial slowness that by the time they called to offer me an interview I had already accepted a role with someone else, they were surprised each and every time. I forbore to point out that good candidates get snapped up however as that would have been unprofessional.

Good luck with your search.

Can you imagine, just after you'd sent that, you receive a letter through the door offering you the job...

You come across like the kind of person who is now applying for a job after years of not working.

I'd ditch the attitude and start showing a bit of good judgment and eagerness to end up doing their job.

NEVER shut doors in your own face, ALWAYS be aiming for the job offer rather than the burnt bridge (even if you don't want the job) and ALWAYS remember that a lot of people won't hire someone who comes across as a knob they couldn't stand to sit and chat with, during the recruitment process.

a certain kind of person who is now applying for a job after years of not working. The kind who really doesn't want to be there on some level.

Obviously most people who apply for a job after years of not working are perfectly fine. The ones who are doing so voluntarily and actually want a job. :)

You don't come across well in that email. I don't think it will achieve anything other than make you look bad so I would advise you not to send it.

I work in hr And have done for 20 years. Have recruited thousands of people. Have never ever had a letter like that. Things can take longer than expected, most candidates appreciate that and don't want to burn bridges. However it would be fine for you to call again and ask for an update in the role, I like it when candidates follow up it shows they are keen.
If I got that letter I would pin it on the wall for everyone to have a good laugh at. But we would never ever give you a job as the letter shows you to have appalling English and to be a right prat.

So HR are both "not the decision makers, don't blame them if it's slow" but also "don't send that, it will kill your subsequent chances".

I don't think that's inconsistent - HR in the case of hiring are a liaison between candidates and management, and it's fairly likely that it's a management delay (which excuses the delay in a decision but not the radio silence). Equally, any rudeness directed at HR will harm subsequent chances because (1) those gatekeepers are likely to filter applications before management see them, to remove those who are completely unqualified or who are blacklisted for one reason or another and (2) they are unlikely to keep such treatment to themselves. See earlier remarks about going viral, or at the very least sticking it up on the board in the kitchen for people to laugh at.

I'm surprised by the battering the OP has had on here.

OP, of course it's reasonable to feel annoyed about what has happened. You deserve the courtesy of being told the status of your application. Particularly since you spent seven hours being interviewed/assessed on a trial shift and because they told you that they would let you know by a particular date.

I'd say that your "eagerness to do the job" (a previous poster's advice) has been demonstrated already by the fact that you spent seven hours with them, and have already followed up once by e-mail.

As another poster has pointed out, it's extremely unlikely that one of the HR team or other decision makers has been hit by tragedy. Most likely it's inefficiency, rudeness or a combination of both. A surprising number of people can't bear to deliver bad news, even by e-mail, or think that they are too busy and important to keep candidates informed, or just don't have the social skills to realise that it's nice to be polite.

Job hunting is horrible, and the worst thing about it is the discourtesy of the people you have to deal with, whether HR teams or recruitment consultants. I don't think that it's acceptable to treat candidates like this: not even sending an e-mail to say, "thanks, but we went with somebody else". Nor do I think that it's fair to tell you that you are unreasonable for being annoyed at the treatment you received.

I wouldn't send the e-mail, because it may have repercussions for you in the future. However, I'd call them and ask for an update in a very gentle and polite way. I did this once, after a large company twice, in three years, sent me an e-mail telling me that they would be in touch shortly about an interview for a role they were advertising then never followed up. The second time, I asked the head of recruitment whether they welcomed feedback on the 'candidate experience', and when she said that they did, I described, very politely, how the experience had made me feel and the impression it created of that business. Even though I felt like saying, "you rude, dismissive bastards. I wouldn't want to work for you after this".

I don't blame you for being annoyed as it's not a nice way to treat people. Many HR departments don't get that though and sending the e mail will achieve nothing as they won't care what you think. Also, it may come back to bite you one day.

24 ago I applied for a Job share in a Local Authority (I had worked for them 8 years previously for 18 months). I heard nothing for about 3 weeks after the interview and had meantime been offered a (more suitable for my need for money to support my family)full- time post, on the same grade, in a neighbouring authority.(this is in the days before email).
I rang the person who would have been my line manager and who had been on the interview panel . I knew her slightly,though hadn't been directly managed by her before, and she knew of me. She was very embarassed that
a) they hadn't offered me the post -ostensibly because I had asked at interview about the likelihood of the post becoming fulltime, at least for a while (I knew the other half of the Job share was pregnant) so they' felt I was really looking for a full time post '(!)
b) HR had not rung me -I think they though she would do it . They interviewed only two people
I was very nice about it all and took some satisfaction in telling her I had another job.Less than a year later I was interviewed again and got a more senior Job Share post with them (the ft for 8 months -it was a Maternity Leave cover-had proved very stressful) I don't think this would have been the case had I sent HR a stroppy letter( email .
I found out when I started work that they had intended to offer me the first post but meantime an existing staff member's husband had been made redundant and she had asked if she could do the 'other half' of this JS as well as her own hours and they agreed! Employment Law was a lot vaguer then .....
The whole recruitment process these days is awful-my DD1 and numerous DCs of friends have been treated appallingly by commercial companies and the charity/voluntary sector alike. It isn't good PR, but unfortunately job -seekers often can't afford to be choosy. To be fair, I think Local Authorities(only too aware of the bad press they will get) are more circumspect .
And don't even get me started on Internships....

heels99 Putting a letter/email on the staff notice board from any candidate would have earned you a strong reprimand were I your line-manager. It worries me to think HR professionals are well...so unprofessional .

I expect heels meant with all identifiable details removed. I hope so.

My husband used to work in IT support and their office for years and years had a printout on the wall of an email from a staff member which said 'Hi, I can't send emails, can you help?'

No, I am not particularly well educated. I don't have A Levels or a University degree, but nonetheless I am earning 30k+ at age 23 so I don't think my lack of formal education or correct grammar is hampering my career. But thanks for pointing it out multiple times and publicly shaming me!
Thankfully my current and past employers have placed more importance on how well I do my job rather than 'oh she used one too many ellipsis, fuck her!'

You come across like the kind of person who is now applying for a job after years of not working
Not sure why you'd make this insulting assumption other than to jump on the 'lets hate on the OP bandwagon'?

I would pin it on the wall for everyone to have a good laugh at. But we would never ever give you a job as the letter shows you to have appalling English
How professional. Would you also do this to someone who spoke English as a second language? Where do you draw the line with the public mocking and bullying?

Again thanks to those who genuinely gave advice and have been pleasant. For the THIRD time now, I will not be sending the email so I don't not require any more put downs or generally nasty behaviour.

"Not sure why you'd make this insulting assumption other than to jump on the 'lets hate on the OP bandwagon'?"

Nope, I'm not the bandwagon type. It's because there are a lot of unemployable/barely employable interviewees flying around at the moment applying for jobs they're not qualified for and behaving in a bizarrely snappy manner that suggests they don't "get" the process of getting a job at all, or what would make people want to hire you, or that they have an unrealistic idea of how valuable they are to a company that has barely considered them yet.

If that's not you then I'm sorry, but really in the OP you do a staggeringly good impression of one.

Just to double check though - have you looked in your email junk folder? I can happen.

(I work in HR and we'd never put anything on the wall for people to laugh at, so don't take it to heart, not everyone is like that.)

*it can happen, not I

But thanks for pointing it out multiple times and publicly shaming me!

This is anonymous. Nobody knows you.