to send this to HR

[mileend2bermondsey]

I applied for a job, spent 7 hours in combination of interviews and a trial shift, was told I would hear back by Friday which was 4 days after my last interview, contacted HR on Monday with a polite, 'please can you inform me on the progress of my application' and never even recieved a 'sorry you were unsuccessful' reply. Would it be UR to send this?

Dear hr,

despite being told I would be informed of the outcome of my job application by lastweek and also emailing yourself personally to no reply I have still heard nothing back from anyone.

I find this behaviour extremely unprofessional, if you do not wish to offer me the job it is common courtesy to at least inform the applicant, especially when they contact you directly to ask.

Regards,
mileend2bermondsey

[Mistigri]

It would be unprofessional to send that mail, but it's equally rude and unprofessional to tell someone to except a response by a certain date and then to not get in touch (even to say "sorry, we haven't made our minds yet").

Unfortunately my experience of HR departments is that this is fairly par for the course, but it creates a terrible impression of the company as an employer.

[mileend2bermondsey]

Well like I said once already, I wont be sending the email so thanks to those who gave practical, constructive advice.

[JCLNE]

You obviously don't have a better offer on the table, because if you did, you'd never give this lot the time of day. So, what's the rush?

Assume you didn't get it, and focus on something more productive. Get on with other applications. If these guys do come back and offer you the job in the meantime, you can still turn them down at that point if you feel they don't deserve you. But you might decide they're better than nothing. Why limit your options by pissing them off unnecessarily?

I understand your frustration, been there, done that, got the job and yes, they continued to dick me about in a similar fashion throughout my employment. You aren't unreasonable to want to be treated better. But your email isn't the way to get there.

[2MuchLoveWillKillYou]

Wow God save me from staff like you

[Gasp0deTheW0nderD0g]

chairmeoh Thu 18-Jun-15 19:22:42
What sort of role is it?

Diplomat, I would guess.

[eminthebigsmoke]

HR are probably tearing their hair out because line management made an unrealistic commitment in the interview! Yours is a fairly common scenario, and regardless of the outcome if you would like feedback then it would be good to keep everyone onside. Are you sure you don't want it?

[GameOfGroans]

OP I think you are getting a hard time here, and sympathise with you! I do however think YABU, but understand that you feel frustrated waiting for them to get back to you.

Well done for deciding not to send the email, good luck job hunting in the future

[Focusfocus]

I have sat on several hiring talks now.

Christ, thank f*ck we've been saved from potential staff like this. Would rather not hire than take this on.

[StillFrankie]

I wouldn't blame them if you didn't get the job - you have a bad attitude which may also have come across in your interview. Someone who is impatient, can't handle rejection, will be lucky to get any job.

Sometimes they never get back to you, it happens. Move on and let it go.

Sometimes they take longer than anticipated to get back to you, in which case you will only ruin your chances (and future chances because people in the same field talk to other businesses).

[StackladysMorphicResonator]

And as you hire your employees via the jobcentre I dont think we're in any danger of me applying for a job with you anyway.

WTF? You do know that FTSE 100 companies also advertise their roles via JCP as well as elsewhere? You sound dreadfully snobbish (not to mention poorly educated - your grammar is appalling).

[JCLNE]

To be fair, though...all of you HR bods on here gasping at OP's rudeness: I'm guessing you wouldn't hold it against an applicant if, in similar circumstances, they accepted a different job by the time you finally got round to calling them back?

Whilst it's true that companies/HR depts/individuals may have an acceptable excuse for keeping people waiting for an answer, let's be honest, nine times out of ten it's NOT because there was a death in the family or the office burnt down or civil war broke out. It's much more likely to be an early warning sign that the company is badly organised, poorly run, and the decision makers are in fact unprofessional and have no respect for the people whose skills they need.

[Mistigri]

I really surprised by how many people seem to think it's ok not to get back to someone who has not only attended interview but also done a trial shift (unpaid? How many hours?).

It's unprofessional, not to mention bad recruiting practice, not to let people know what's going on. Unless you keep candidates informed, you risk potential employees accepting work elsewhere because your own HR processes are inefficient and unprofessional. Ten days after an interview and a trial shift, candidates should either have had a definite no or been told they are still in the running.

[Momagain1]

jcline nope, wouldnt mind. Though that sort of thing is exactly why OP should keep calm, as it means 2nd choice will be called.

HR arent always the decision makers, which is why there is no sense getting snippy with them.

[Mistigri]

HR are the point of contact though, and it is their job to keep candidates informed.

[RiderOfDragons]

I think YABU and I'm glad you aren't sending the email. I do understand the dishearten and frustration when you are told you'll get feedback to help you improve and you get ignored though. It still is early days yet though, I'm waiting on feedback from a year ago and keep being promised it! despite not wanting

[Shenanagins]

Glad to read that your not going to send it. More often than not it's the business who are holding things up not making a decision, etc but hr take the blame.

[Melonfool]

Things always take longer than companies expect.

Your suggested email doesn't even make grammatical sense so really don't send it.

If they offer you the job now you can still consider that option. If they don't, why do you care how unprofessional they are?

You could, if they turn you down, ask them to meet your expenses for the interviews. Politely.

(have you checked your junk folder?)

[Mistigri]

In this case HR only get the blame because they failed to respond to a reasonable follow-up question from a candidats who not only attended interview but worked a (presumably unpaid) shift.

[ScrambledEggAndToast]

I wouldn't. I once waited 3 weeks to hear about a job There was no call to say it was going to be that long and no progress report apart from when I rang midway because I was in agony with the wait!! I didn't get it in the end but it was awful to be kept waiting so long. I think it was to do with someone going on annual leave right after the interviews so why not have the interviews when she got back

[WowMeLikeAnOcean]

Fuck them.
Don't waste any time on them.
Even if they did respond, would you want to work there?
Don't waste 5 minutes replying, spend 5 minutes doing something else.

[WanderWomble]

When did you send the last email? If it's been a couple of weeks, I'd ring and ask for an update. There's nothing wrong with wanting to know where you stand. Sending an email like the one in your OP is not the right way to go about getting said update.

[Sazzle41]

Its HR. They move at their own unfathomable pace their wonders to perform: IME of 20 yrs corporate life. If you send that and they are just dithering or waiting for negotiations outcome with first choice, you wont be fall back if no 1 doesnt go anywhere....or 1st choice if they just havent got round to decision.

I've often been told an answer in a week, got nothing and then 4 weeks letter get offered it. By which time i have something else cos i cant afford financially to fanny around when i need a new contract job. Their loss. Its candidate rich 'pool' the fish in, so they know they can leave people dangling and always get someone if you dont wait for them anyway. Candidates are ten a penny - get used to it.

[DownWithThisTypeOfThing]

Oh send it.

[fredfredgeorgejnr]

So HR are both "not the decision makers, don't blame them if it's slow" but also "don't send that, it will kill your subsequent chances".

It may well be that the decision makers are being slow, but that's why you have an HR department, to manage the relationship with the candidate, keep them informed, let them know things are delayed etc. HR are to blame for lack of contact, that's part of their job, to manage the candidates, pissing one off means they failed, no matter how shitty a particular candidate you don't know how good their friends are.