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to send this to HR

113 replies

mileend2bermondsey · 18/06/2015 17:54

I applied for a job, spent 7 hours in combination of interviews and a trial shift, was told I would hear back by Friday which was 4 days after my last interview, contacted HR on Monday with a polite, 'please can you inform me on the progress of my application' and never even recieved a 'sorry you were unsuccessful' reply. Would it be UR to send this?

Dear hr,

despite being told I would be informed of the outcome of my job application by lastweek and also emailing yourself personally to no reply I have still heard nothing back from anyone.

I find this behaviour extremely unprofessional, if you do not wish to offer me the job it is common courtesy to at least inform the applicant, especially when they contact you directly to ask.

Regards,
mileend2bermondsey

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AnotheBloodyChinHair · 18/06/2015 18:52

You send that and sooner or later that reply will come back to bite you in the arse.

Hornydilemma · 18/06/2015 18:52

I interviewed someone 2 months ago and we offered him a position 2 weeks ago - we had one position, offered it to our first preference, but knew we would have permission to recruit for a second position soon (had to wait for signoff from Group HR).

We did keep him up to date with an email and a quick coffee meeting in between. However, if he had chased up with the wording in your OP, he would have been crossed off the list.

Also, it may be an issue with that company's procedures being crap. But what happens if the person you send the email to moves company to your dream employer? You send in your CV - it'll be filed in the bin!

MillionToOneChances · 18/06/2015 18:54

You genuinely have no idea what is going on here. A friend was messed around by a company months ago, but it turned out to be because the person who would be training her had a personal medical crisis in full flow. Eventually they told her to stop waiting for them and accept a different job. This week they headhunted her, offered a higher salary, and she starts next week. Don't burn your bridges.

wheresthelight · 18/06/2015 18:54

Wow you really are a peach aren't you!

With an attitude like you are displaying here you will find yourself in the job centre soon enough!

MrsHathaway · 18/06/2015 18:57

People move companies. Someone involved today might be moving to somewhere you would like to work and will remember.

Email or call again politely, with a little gush about being really interested. Maybe they're about to advertise another position and are deciding whether you might be a good fit. Don't mark your card.

This reminds me of the thread where a mother decided not to list her nearest school for her DD because they'd refused to give the family an additional, private tour. IIRC she ended up at a shithole miles away and was knee deep in futile appeals. I must look that up.

I know it's deeply frustrating but you really really mustn't send anything. Remember it could go viral tomorrow and then you might as well put your CV through the shredder.

CakeLady1 · 18/06/2015 18:57

Ask for feedback, but whatever you do DON'T send that email - maybe it's to see if you have initiative and patience... HR are renown to move at glacial speeds in any company

HoldYerWhist · 18/06/2015 19:00

Don't be so ridiculous! You can't go around sending shitty emails to prospective employers.

You never know what might happen in the future.

Plus, your grammar was awful.

despite being told I would be informed of the outcome of my job application bylastweekand also emailing yourself personally to no reply I have still heard nothing back from anyone

Read that back. Terrible.

Tequilashotfor1 · 18/06/2015 19:01

Don't send it and calm down.

They still could be considering applicants

The person who was selecting may be off sick/ on holiday

mileend2bermondsey · 18/06/2015 19:02

Someone involved today might be moving to somewhere you would like to work and will remember
But what happens if the person you send the email to moves company to your dream employer? You send in your CV - it'll be filed in the bin!

Good points. I wont send the email, thanks for the replies.

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balls2DWall · 18/06/2015 19:02

lol holdyerwhist ... touche Grin

mileend2bermondsey · 18/06/2015 19:04

Thanks for the condescending literacy advice holdyer Hmm

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fredfredgeorgejnr · 18/06/2015 19:11

Bad behaviour by HR is certainly a reason to turn down a job, and a good one, unless desperate or you yourself are incompetent it doesn't make sense to work for companies with poor HR team. You'll spend your whole working life surrounded by idiots.

It's also not unprofessional to complain about bad behaviour by HR, but no point writing to them to complain, write to who interviewed you etc. They're the people losing out on good staff because of HR, and they're the ones who need to know. But you certainly need to write a sensible email and not just a pointlessly snotty one.

NoIsNotACompleteSentence · 18/06/2015 19:13

God, you sound like the type of person I repeatedly ended up interviewing as they came from HR.

There was a certain type that were absolute arrogant knobs. Excessive use of "myself" instead of "I", saying that I would be "lucky" to employ them as they were so fantastic (even though they provided no previous work history whatsoever) etc. One guy walked through the door and literally said straightaway "I have been offered another job but still wanted to come and give you the chance to get me by offering a higher salary".

Funnily enough, one of the best staff members I ever had came through the job centre. Needless to say, they had a better attitude than you!

redshoeblueshoe · 18/06/2015 19:13

I was coming on to say send it. I wanted to see the response you got.

NoIsNotACompleteSentence · 18/06/2015 19:14

It's highly unprofessional to send an email like that whilst still waiting to hear, even if they have exceeded the time frame. Unprofessional and a bit stupid too.

xiaozhu · 18/06/2015 19:18

TBH you sound rude, impatient, entitled and unprofessional and you can't write properly. If you behaved like that in your interview then I'm not surprised if they don't want to get in contact with you again.

mileend2bermondsey · 18/06/2015 19:22

If you behaved like that in your interview then I'm not surprised if they don't want to get in contact with you again
Well considering I had 3 interviews and a trial shift, I dont really think the employer felt that way.

Noisnot
I'm an 'arrogant knob' for expecting a reply to an email I sent after not hearing back in the allocated time frame? kay....

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chairmeoh · 18/06/2015 19:22

What sort of role is it?

saoirse31 · 18/06/2015 19:26

No you're extremely self centred in that you appear to think replying to an email from an applicant should be the company's main focus. you don't know why they haven't replied. try ringing instead.

balls2DWall · 18/06/2015 19:28

no your an arrogant knob for knocking back a potential job and future jobs with them over not getting a prompt reply.

sheesh!!

balls2DWall · 18/06/2015 19:29

please send the email so someone else more deserving will get it.

Mia1415 · 18/06/2015 19:30

As an HR manager I would strongly advice you not to send this!!!!
There can be any number of reasons why they've not got back to you when planned for example

  • HR contact could be sick / have had to take emergency leave
  • they are reconsidering the role / structure (which could be either good or bad for you. I once got offered a better job from an interview that was created for me based on interview performance & another good candidate got original advertised job)
  • they have offered someone else & are keeping you in reserve
  • they are trying to get final sign off for the job
  • your salary expectations are higher & are trying to get higher salary signed off
  • they have had a late applicant they want to see before making a final decision
Etc etc If you send that email you will be labelled as high maintenance & will blow your chances!
mileend2bermondsey · 18/06/2015 19:31

balls please leave me alone Im not sure what your problem is.

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Momagain1 · 18/06/2015 19:34

My friend didnt get a job six months ago. Two weeks ago, they called and offered her a better one.

Until you are head of HR, it isnt your place to critique the HR employees. You dont even know if the delay is in HR or in the hiring dept.

NoIsNotACompleteSentence · 18/06/2015 19:34

No, you're not an arrogant knob by expecting a reply, you're being an arrogant knob telling someone who possibly might want to recruit you, that they are being unprofessional! And you're an arrogant knob with that little dig about job centres.

I once had a colleague who received a similar high handed, patronising email chastising him as he did not reply to someone by the end of the day as promised. The word "unprofessional" was also used. Unfortunately my colleague had received a visit from the police at work later that day, to inform him his child had committed suicide. Replying to work emails really wasn't his priority that day, funnily enough.